With Republicans Like These, Who Needs Democrats?

[pisshead]

also, i remember seeing on foxnews and cnn around 9/11 the big story about the put options on the airlines used...and by gosh golly gee we'll just figure out who made those and we'll be on our way to incriminating bin laden from that cave...

then it was dropped like a hot potato...

does anyone who believes the 19 freedom hating hijacker theory think that evidence wouldn't be helpful in any way and would tell us nothing? record put options before 9/11 go unclaimed...pretty easy to find out who made them...but that doesn't matter, here's a picture of osama we'll flash on your screen and that means he did it?

and building 7? if anyone has seen dozens and dozens of controlled demolitions on video...this is clearly a controlled demolition...

how did bin laden do this? which of the freedom hating hijakcers wired the building to be brought down suddenly around 5:30pm on 9/11? pictures and firefighters records say the building had only a few small fires, while other modern steel buildings can burn for days and never collapse. the owner is on a pbs documentary about 9/11 saying he made the decision to pull the building and then they watched it fall...am i to believe they just wired the buliding in a few hours to come down perfectly? i've never seen such a beautifully brought down building, except towers 1 and 2.

serious responses to how this could have happened please...

pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on 05-05-2005. With Republicans Like These, Who Needs Democrats? http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/chuckwagon.html With Republicans Like These, Who Needs Democrats? By Chuck Baldwin Food For Thought From The Chuck Wagon May 4, 2005 My friend Howard Phillips recently wrote a column outlining the philosophy and historical track record of the Republican Party since George W. Bush became President. Sad to say, even a cursory review of this record reveals the fact that the Republican Party in Washington, D.C., has become little more than a Rating: 5

[EverydayJunglist]

thats all i was saying.people get all paranoid over nothing.

alot of people have a pretty god damn good reason to be paranoid.Who gives fuck if he is paranoid or not.Our 4th ammendment has detiorated nonetheless.As americans we pride ourselves on the freedoms we are entitled too.America does have alot of problems,but i wouldn't want to live anywhere else I dont think.

[amsterdam]

i second that.

[bhallg2k]

you are the PERFECT example of democrat lies and bullshit.have you even actually read the patriot act??(dont just say you have to seem cool)

THE GOVT. CANNOT LOOK AT YOUR LIBRARY CARDS AND SEE WHAT YOU CHECKED OUT.THAT IS A FACT.

I haven't read The Patriot Act, no. And why would it make me cool if I did?

The point about The Patriot Act isn't about what it says, it's about what it doesn't say. The bill was passed into law with no public hearings and no congressional committee markup, as is the case with every other law. So the government is exploiting any ambiguity that lies within the law.

Section 215 of The Patriot Act, which can be read by searching for H.R. 3162 here, has been used to search library records. Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh said FBI "agents have contacted about 50 libraries nationwide in the course of terrorism investigations" in the Report to the House Judiciary Committee on the USA PATRIOT Act and Related Measures (May 13, 2003) which confirmed further that "the Justice Department has used many of these anti-terrorism powers to pursue defendants for crimes unrelated to terrorism, including drug violations, credit card fraud, and bank theft." Additionally, a University of Illinois survey of librarians in 2002 stated that "hundreds of libraries had reported contacts from federal agents."

So maybe you should read The Patriot Act

[ihateapplesandsalt]

the world is a different place after 9/11.this is a war unlike any other in history.sometimes you have to sacrafice.get over it.

War really is the health of the state isn't it? This new 'war on terror' is completely in sync with the machinations of the American Empire since WWII, the rhetoric is basically lifted right from the Reagan administration's 'war on terror'. Now a question, why and what 'must we sacrifice'?

[amsterdam]

I haven't read The Patriot Act, no. And why would it make me cool if I did?

The point about The Patriot Act isn't about what it says, it's about what it doesn't say. The bill was passed into law with no public hearings and no congressional committee markup, as is the case with every other law. So the government is exploiting any ambiguity that lies within the law.

Section 215 of The Patriot Act, which can be read by searching for H.R. 3162 here, has been used to search library records. Assistant Attorney General Viet Dinh said FBI "agents have contacted about 50 libraries nationwide in the course of terrorism investigations" in the Report to the House Judiciary Committee on the USA PATRIOT Act and Related Measures (May 13, 2003) which confirmed further that "the Justice Department has used many of these anti-terrorism powers to pursue defendants for crimes unrelated to terrorism, including drug violations, credit card fraud, and bank theft." Additionally, a University of Illinois survey of librarians in 2002 stated that "hundreds of libraries had reported contacts from federal agents."

So maybe you should read The Patriot Act

if you havent even read it how do you know what it does or dosent say?

were any of the people on the record?or were these just "people"that wrote in?

[Marlboroman]

man Amsterdam you are one tough cookie, but your also blinded by your own anger. but its not your fault my man. you were taught that anger.

you were taught your closed mind way of thinking, and i blame your educators for not showing you how to truely think.

there really is nothing more to say to you except enjoy your confinement.

Did you know they are already implanting US children with RFID's? you can even go pay to get one yourself for $500 US. Stateing ways to make your life easier like being able to pay for things right off that chip in your wrist by scanning it over some sort of detector. Or better yet lets just tattoo a number on there for ya.

Under the cover of technical advancement our GOV is systematically going to tag each one of us like animals in the wild.

So I take it you want to be controlled?

you like the looming threats of a New World Order?

You my freind are the frog that did not jump from the pot.

The only thing we can really hope for is that we can still get ahold of weapons when its time. but with gun control mounting an offensive i bet we lose those rights too.

And ya any sort of revolt against our GOV my citizens or aliens is considered Terrorism by the patriot act.

What I dont understand about your narrow point of view is how you can be comfortable with it. Is it you think you are powerless to do anything about it? so in fact you just join them?

what is it please?.. what makes you beleive what you beleive?

My evidence is on the TV everyday.... where is yours?

Where is the evidence that all is well?

[amsterdam]

i am 26,i own my own nice house,2 cars,i have hot wife,make alot of money in the market,travel to europe a couple times a year,a great job,a college degree,pay my own bills(no mommy money).like i said,if life were any better i would shit myself.

i think thaat your evidence is on t.v. is funny as hell.you know what that is called right?a sheep.

if i took anything from schools?all my teachers were flaming liberals?

my narrow point of view?of course i am happy with it.we are right and will prevail like we already are.when i was a CHILD i was into the anti gov crap.i grew up.all you guys preach the same stuff.its the same message your type has preached since 1960.guess what,your days are numbered.this is 2005.

[Marlboroman]

i am 26,i own my own nice house,2 cars,i have hot wife,make alot of money in the market,travel to europe a couple times a year,a great job,a college degree,pay my own bills(no mommy money).like i said,if life were any better i would shit myself.

i think thaat your evidence is on t.v. is funny as hell.you know what that is called right?a sheep.

if i took anything from schools?all my teachers were flaming liberals?

my narrow point of view?of course i am happy with it.we are right and will prevail like we already are.when i was a CHILD i was into the anti gov crap.i grew up.all you guys preach the same stuff.its the same message your type has preached since 1960.guess what,your days are numbered.this is 2005.

yes our days are numbered because of people just like you. What i really find funny is that i support my claims with some sort of example.

you on the other hand simply say im wrong and or out of my mind, without stateing a single retort to any of the things ive said.

as far as being a sheep?... your the one that thinks terrorism exists.

if there was a force capable of attacking us in a meaningfull manner they would have already done it.

why build our armed forces when there is nobody to defend ourselves against?

why with such a concern for terroism is the Canadian border ungaurded for thousands of miles? Im not trying to convince you Amsterdam. that would be impossible to do since you seem to be a full force facist ready to claim a few poor slaves for yourself.

with things of this nature happening thru history. why do you discount it so?

what makes your view the right one? what makes mine the right one for that matter.

the problem is that you like millions of other americans think this cant happen to you for some reason, you have some sort of inbreed loyalty to a make beleive party that combats another make beleive party on issues of seemingly useless basis.

its all done on purpose, as long as they can keep you occupied with some issue that has no real impact on your life they are free to engineer the ones that do. and you are falling for the whole thing man.

I am not against GOV you need it you need a way to keep peace with so many people running around. but the current trend and disappearing civil liberties is not what we as Americans should be striveing for.

[amsterdam]

yes our days are numbered because of people just like you. What i really find funny is that i support my claims with some sort of example.

you on the other hand simply say im wrong and or out of my mind, without stateing a single retort to any of the things ive said.

as far as being a sheep?... your the one that thinks terrorism exists.

if there was a force capable of attacking us in a meaningfull manner they would have already done it.

why build our armed forces when there is nobody to defend ourselves against?

why with such a concern for terroism is the Canadian border ungaurded for thousands of miles? Im not trying to convince you Amsterdam. that would be impossible to do since you seem to be a full force facist ready to claim a few poor slaves for yourself.

with things of this nature happening thru history. why do you discount it so?

what makes your view the right one? what makes mine the right one for that matter.

the problem is that you like millions of other americans think this cant happen to you for some reason, you have some sort of inbreed loyalty to a make beleive party that combats another make beleive party on issues of seemingly useless basis.

its all done on purpose, as long as they can keep you occupied with some issue that has no real impact on your life they are free to engineer the ones that do. and you are falling for the whole thing man.

I am not against GOV you need it you need a way to keep peace with so many people running around. but the current trend and disappearing civil liberties is not what we as Americans should be striveing for.

so that was your long winded way of saying you havent lost any freedom.i thought so.

i dont even know what your going at with the slave remark but none of my family was even in this country until after all that.

its not that i think im right,its that all the lefts ideas are wrong.there are tons of stupid republican ideas,but we have the solutions.the left has none.

i find it truly breath taking that you dont think there is terrorism.breath taking.

NAME 1 FREEDOM THAT YOU HAVE PERSONALLY LOST.JUST ONE.YOU CANT.