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    #31
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    The plant that developed nanners is drying right now and I'll be flushing the surviving female tomorrow. It's in a 3 gallon pot, so if I've read the other threads correctly, I need to run about 9-10 gallons of distilled water through it, adding a 1-2 tablespoons of molasses into the last gallon... Then plan to harvest in two weeks with no further feed or water in the meantime. (Maybe a just a little more time - based on trichome color) Right?

    I have 3 plants vegging :thumbsup: and i expect to move two to the flowering boxes soon as soon as both boxes are clear. Hopefully, two of the three will be female, but with bag seed ya never know what to expect. This time however, all of the seeds were planted in the right soil, not some buck a bag trash on sale at Kroger. Also, neither of the prettiest is taking off like a bat out of hell compared to the other like that last male did.

    All three of these stretched a bit right after they sprouted and I had to use a paper clip to support them until they grew some strength in the stem, but as you can see, they developed real healthy main stems pretty quick with a fan keeping their attention. And two of them are a week or two older than the third.

    They're currently at about 6-8 inches under a 400w MH lamp on 18/6. Any closer and I'd risk burning them. They're already up to 1½ strength feeding on an 'as needed' watering diet. They'll go to 2X as soon as I have to water them again, and they're already on 2X in folier feeding. OK, so I'm lazy... I'd run out of 1½X and had already made the next gallon @ 2X when I needed to refill the spray bottle... What can I say? But they do get folier feeding daily, so it's not like I'm THAT lazy. There's NO HINT of fertilizer burning on any of them - I watch for that closely. I believe the couple of bottom leaves in the second picture that are dieing are simply due to stem growth and development, not nutes, as they're below the 'knuckle'. Those couple of leaves have already fallen off of the other plant with no detrimental impact.

    They all appear healthy and strong, and I have topped them, shall we say, a 'couple' of times, to keep 'em short and growing bushy. Not that it would have anything at ALL to do with creating more main stems, or producing more main buds or anything like that. Nah... I'd never do anything like try to create my own little SOG with a single plant. Nope, nope... not me.
    :rasta:

    But, the 'next-gen' has arrived and is just waiting for it's new home, at which time I plan to order a few high end seeds. DutchPimp... I know you spoke highly of the 'White X' line from Attitude. Any idea as to how well they handle heat? I have a feeling temperature's going to be a factor during flowering in the generation after these.

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    #32
    Senior Member

    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    DutchPimp... I know you spoke highly of the 'White X' line from Attitude. Any idea as to how well they handle heat? I have a feeling temperature's going to be a factor during flowering in the generation after these.

    I stay below 85 degrees. I measure that; in the space between the light and the canopy.
    (offset, out of direct light rays)

    I don't know what the max limit might be? Good light + good soil + good temps = good weed

    Bottomline: if things get too hot?...raise the light until temps improve.

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    #33
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp
    Bottomline: if things get too hot?...raise the light until temps improve.
    It's not just heat from the light.... It's the ambient temperature. We regularly get to 110°F in the heat of the summer... Such that it becomes impractical to try to keep the entire house cooled (not to mention EXPENSIVE!). We'll be over 90° by the middle of May. Installing a window AC unit on the back porch is not an option. I'd LOVE to be able to keep the area under 85°, but I'll be doing real good to stay under 95°.

    Heat, I KNOW, is going to be a problem, but I imagine there is some strain of genetics that attempts to compensate for this (somewhat). So now, it's just a matter of finding something that someone else in the "deep south" has had relative success with. uhh.. Other than headache brown!

    None of the seed banks tell anything about resistances and such. I hoped you may have had some experience with it. I may have to start another thread in regard to this.

    Thanks though.

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    #34
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Say DutchPimp:

    Was it you that spoke of growing in 'bags' in another thread I saw, rather than growing in pots??

    If so, could you elaborate? Round pots don't fit in square boxes as well as I believe I could get bags to fit. But I have no idea as to what kind of 'bags' you might be using. (If it was you that said it)

    If it wasn't you that I saw saying something about this, well... sorry.... smoking too much pot for too many years is said to affect short term memory. And I can't remember shit - but then, I never could.

    Thanks

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    #35
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by GrowingInGeorgia
    Say DutchPimp:

    Was it you that spoke of growing in 'bags' in another thread I saw, rather than growing in pots??

    If so, could you elaborate? Round pots don't fit in square boxes as well as I believe I could get bags to fit. But I have no idea as to what kind of 'bags' you might be using. (If it was you that said it)

    If it wasn't you that I saw saying something about this, well... sorry.... smoking too much pot for too many years is said to affect short term memory. And I can't remember shit - but then, I never could.

    Thanks
    That would be me. Check your Ok Im confused thread. I put it all on that one

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    #36
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by pushit
    Check your Ok Im confused thread. I put it all on that one

    Oops...
    All I can add is "I can't remember shit - but then, I never could."

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    #37
    Senior Member

    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    I flushed this last Tuesday and after watching for months, I just had a slip of mentality and listened to that little devil on my shoulder that kept telling me to sample it. "It's just one little sample. No one will notice it. Go ahead, go ahead. It's all right. Go ahead. Take a sample." You know the spheel. So I broke down to the temptation. {sigh} Since flushing she gotten so top heavy I've had to play with a little bondage to keep her up.

    I took one small bud from the lower branches, stuck it in an envelope and sat the envelope on top of my old CRT monitor for some gentle dry heat. Thirty Six hours later (this morning) I rolled half of it for my wife's wake and bake.

    She's fried.

    Excellent.... but as always, a better strain seed would have produced better meds.


    I put the next gen on a 12/12 schedule Tuesday as well. They have been vegging for about 6 weeks and have been topped several times. My 'intention' is to start a grow log thread on them. I hope everyone comes over to follow it.

    Look here to find it. http://boards.cannabis.com/basic-gro...g-georgia.html

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    #38
    Senior Member

    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    You were absolutely right. NOW comes the hard part. Watching this thing S L O W L Y mature while keeping me mitts off of it!

    It's STILL only at about 3% (or less) amber trichomes!

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    #39
    Senior Member

    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by GrowingInGeorgia
    Yea... but you're growing OUTSIDE, whereas, alas, I am forced to grow within the confines of my back porch - and within only a limited section of that. So I guess you take the 'limbs' and build a 'bonnie bonfire' to give your garden a homey atmosphere? Ok, Un-huh - but you're getting one crop a year, and I'm looking for 3-4.

    I left a message for a girl on Craig's list that has some equipment and ferts that I'm really hoping she'll be willing to barter for. A couple of fans, a 1000w HPS, a couple of ionic filters, a hydroponic pump and tubing with drip nozzles... Just an assortment of stuff - all of which I hope to need in the relatively near future. I (jokingly) offered her an outboard motor I have (boy would it be a blessing if she went for THAT in trade) - but in reality I intend to offer services in my field of expertise. The worst she can say is 'No', right?

    A month ago I had no idea as to how to tell the difference between a male and a female plant. I was 'satisfied' with the 'potting soil' on sale at the grocery and thought I was going to make great accomplishments with 4 eight inch pots. BOY! Was I "STOOOOOPIIID"! But I'm learning.

    So you recommend I just 'let it grow' at this point? Ok, I can do that. I've learned not to water every day. I guess I can learn patience next. I've made it from killing rock gardens to having flowers that even I can clearly identify. Not too bad of a first step.
    doesnt seem logical. 3-4? how do you expect to do that?

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    #40
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    I seem to do better at killing than growing - HELP PLEASE!

    Quote Originally Posted by ogganjagrower
    doesnt seem logical. 3-4? how do you expect to do that?
    That shouldn't be too difficult. To turn crops in a three month rotation actually means harvesting once every three months. That allows 3 months in flowering, while the next rotation is already in vegging, DURING that same three months. This actually allows 6 months total growing time per crop. It's a perpetual grow, shifting from vegging to flowering every three months (roughly).

    Indoor growing with 12-13 weeks in vegging and 12-13 weeks in flowering (while the next crop is already started vegging), and growing from clones, this should be quite simple. In fact, 26 weeks total is a little long. So a 4 crop per year rotation should not be difficult, depending on strain.

    Growing outdoors, I don't think this could be done because you're at the mercy of the seasons and the sun. Indoors I can control the "season" and the "sun".

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