cool thanks UBERNERD but the smell isnt really an issue! i couldnt connect to this site for a few days but everythings going ok for me so far from what i knw....

PUSHIT nice1 for the advice much appreciated mate a lot of vids an stuff i checked out they seem to start off in party cups ill do it like that the next time do you think having them in 4L pots from day 1 will affect there growth?

the AMNESIA HAZE broke the soil on the 14th and the AFGHAN KUSH on the 16th there lookin ok to me the AFGHAN KUSH is taller but has less leaves i have no connection to put pics up to get better advice but i am trying to sort something out sorry :jointsmile: thanks again lads ill keep yas posted!