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    #11
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    What's a Traditional Family

    Your statements on the traditional family, Torog, are ridiculous to say the least. Much like most of your other views, what is "traditional" in your eyes is nothing but a media induced ideology of the American dream which, in reality, is very much a myth.

    Americans like yourself want the whole world to work around them and their ideas. Why should a family need a certain number of kids and a large house to be traditional? If that's seriously what you've been led to believe then there's less hope for you and your country then I thought. Why should the concept of family have traditions in the first place? Should a widow with a single child feel ashamed she wasn't able to fulfill your bullshit fantasy for you? A family is about love, not fitting into your ridiculous TV sitcom image. Your constant reference to gay activists (presumably normal people who, by being homosexual, are activists) just shows how little your life experience has paid off. For someone who fought for the rights of others, you show very little patience for them. Try turning off the TV and opening your eyes for a change.

    I don't mean to offend, but the fact is you do Torog, quite often actually.

    What's healthy for a family? Nothing but love and companionship, I will always stick by that "tradition" in particular.

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    #12
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    Quote Originally Posted by Button Basher
    Your statements on the traditional family, Torog, are ridiculous to say the least. Much like most of your other views, what is "traditional" in your eyes is nothing but a media induced ideology of the American dream which, in reality, is very much a myth.

    Americans like yourself want the whole world to work around them and their ideas. Why should a family need a certain number of kids and a large house to be traditional? If that's seriously what you've been led to believe then there's less hope for you and your country then I thought. Why should the concept of family have traditions in the first place? Should a widow with a single child feel ashamed she wasn't able to fulfill your bullshit fantasy for you? A family is about love, not fitting into your ridiculous TV sitcom image. Your constant reference to gay activists (presumably normal people who, by being homosexual, are activists) just shows how little your life experience has paid off. For someone who fought for the rights of others, you show very little patience for them. Try turning off the TV and opening your eyes for a change.

    I don't mean to offend, but the fact is you do Torog, quite often actually.

    What's healthy for a family? Nothing but love and companionship, I will always stick by that "tradition" in particular.

    what a sucker,thats all i can get out right now.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #13
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    You know i'm all up for a good, old political argument Amsterdam, right as soon as you offer one.

    Right now, all I see is a cocky schoolboy.

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    #14
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    cocky yes,school boy no.

    what would you like to debate?
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #15
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    'traditions' don't exist. Everything is invented.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    my family plays poker every thanksgiving and has for 20 years,its our tradition.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #17
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    Quote Originally Posted by amsterdam
    cocky yes,school boy no.

    what would you like to debate?
    Why my views render me a 'sucker'.

    I'd also like to debate with you XTC's points which I agree with whole-heartedly but obviously you don't. What are your thoughts on the "traditional" family? Does your family fit into Torog's vision? If not, why do you agree with him?

    It's all there.

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    #18
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    my family values i believe would differ from torogs alot.he is a super conservative .i am just a right leaning republican(pro-choice,could care less about gay issues)
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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    #19
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    Oooh kay.

    Sooo... Why am I a sucker?

    Also, do you really care about any of these discussions? Or are you just driven by a hate for Liberals ('cause i'm neither side)? Just a little confused here.

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    #20
    Senior Member

    What's a Traditional Family

    ok,you are no sucker.when i first came to this site all it was was anti -bush crazy hysterical garbage.i am on the other side and will say so.seriously stupid conspiracy crap put out to entertain not inform and i got sick of it.

    i dont hate anyone at all.i just think super-left wing people(not democrats) believe they have a real following when they dont.they are bomb throwers who believe america is a bad place.they are wrong.millions upon millions upon millions of immigrants cant be wrong.
    \"even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value,marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.\"

    William F. Buckley Jr.

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