just not sure ?

[EZG]

ty polish and Daddy , its straight answers like this that will prevent basic mistakes , my idea is to use the runt as a guide ,its stem has bulked up over the past 24 hours, i really wont to train my girls to be stunted my grow cab is 6ft high , i will tweak my light setup , i was thinking about a 250wtt purple CFL , i have a grow log and would like you guys to give me your opinions .

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EZG Reviewed by EZG on 06-30-2011. just not sure ? hello my bro gave me this plant about a week ago it was looking bad , but picked up . now its looking worse , its had some growth and a has a broke branch iv only watered it slightly , im new to this , i thought it was over watered , but now im not sure , iv not given it any nuts yet , and was thinking seaweed extract? pls take a look and offer any advice , H=Answer if you grow hydro or aero C=Answer if you grow coco Rating: 5

[EZG]

can someone point me to where i can readup on pinch and trim . iv been looking on the forums but cant find shit ,
the runt is still the same , i think she has decided to get rid of the damaged branches and leaves , ill not do anything to stress the little girl anymore ,
i gave it its first flush and tested the PH before and after the flush , 6.8 before and 6.5 after what do u guys think ?

[Purple Daddy]

My experiences with runts is they aren't worth the trouble for the space they consume, I had two this year one was because of root rot the other was apparently just genetics, the root rot plant I saved finished but the yield may have been a 1/4 oz or less, the other natural runt produced good bud but maybe 1/2 an oz.

There are a lot of different opinions on pinching and trimming. I find that bending the tops down about 8-12 inches from the top will help you produce a new string of cola buds from the bend to the end of the tip and gives you a little more grow room. I'm stripping the bottom branches(about 18 inches from the soil) off of my plants even outside, from experience they seem like more hassle then they're worth and produce small clusters of loose buds with the theory being the plant isn't wasting energy growing those branches/buds out. Like I said there are a million theories on pruning, my advice is try bending it's interesting to see 4 new vertical cola buds growing.

[polishpollack]

Don't bother pinching and trimming a runt. Only cut the tops if it looks like a plant is going to get taller than the grow space allows. I don't where concausions gets the idea that pinching and trimming is to deal with stretching. This person is putting out some bad ideas. Why experience is required with CFL bulbs at 5 inches or less is a bizarre thing to say. It's heat from the bulb that you're primarily concerned with. If you have any source of light very close to a plant, there are two things that happen - one is heat damage (but CFLs don't put out much heat), and the other is growth response, i.e., a plant will grow very short and bushy when a strong source of light is very close. I'm primarily talking about MH and HPS here. Close CFLs should be fine as mentioned by pushit. Keep lights close and see what happens. Flouro light isn't a strong source and they run cool, and I don't think there's much to worry about. As they grow, back the lights off some. It looks like some stem stretching has taken place already. Don't trim anything, just let them grow.

[Purple Daddy]

FWIW I bent two plants about 12" from the top yesterday late afternoon, by this morning the horizontal branches along that 12" length had already began growing vertical. I'm going to have to probably bend them one more time at least.

[EZG]

im not sure what to say about this plant , the runt has not given up yet ,
stem has bulked m new growth looks healthy , just tested the soil and the Ph is 6.6 , still have only flushed it yesterday for the first time , to me it looks healthy

[ConcaucsionS]

I dont know what experience your speaking from but heres a photo of my youngest. Shes 1 and a half months into veg, theirs only an inch maybe even less between each node and new stalk so stretching is very minimal and the plant herself is maybe a foot a foot and a half tall... Dont take my advice and call my crazy but im doing the same thing I told you too and my results speak for themselves. From what you guys are saying and telling him it doesnt sound like you run 26 watt bulbs but probably 400-1000 so you shouldnt really be giving him advice at all. Yes the basic principles are the same but i`ve done both and their extremely different. I mean cmon with 1000 watts what you pull down in 3 months is nothing compared to what happens in 3 months under a CFL. Two different worlds bub.

[pushit]

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Looks like im using 26w cfls to me. If you see the one thats topped, that had stretch to it. Maybe 6 in way from lights. I prefer mine dont get alot of stretch in veg. They get plenty of that when they go under the HPS. So I stand by my comments of having the cfls as close as you can without burning them. I had to pull the light bar out of the way so i could get a pic so they look further away. Maybe 2 inches away when its in position. Sorry EZG for putting this on your thread

I dont know what experience your speaking from but heres a photo of my youngest. Shes 1 and a half months into veg, theirs only an inch maybe even less between each node and new stalk so stretching is very minimal and the plant herself is maybe a foot a foot and a half tall... Dont take my advice and call my crazy but im doing the same thing I told you too and my results speak for themselves. From what you guys are saying and telling him it doesnt sound like you run 26 watt bulbs but probably 400-1000 so you shouldnt really be giving him advice at all. Yes the basic principles are the same but i`ve done both and their extremely different. I mean cmon with 1000 watts what you pull down in 3 months is nothing compared to what happens in 3 months under a CFL. Two different worlds bub.

[ConcaucsionS]

Looking good, Nice and healthy. Although, I wasnt talking to you. You stated about 10-15 posts ago you were using CFL's. Your girls look to be around 3-4 weeks? May I ask why you havent trimmed any of your lower leaves that are being blocked of light by the canopy otherwise and absorbing more energy than its producing for the plants overall veg growth

[ConcaucsionS]

I also noticed your only promoting growth to a single pistil? Is that your method or do you grow multiple tops later? Otherwise I cant imagine why you'd be wasting so much energy on having more plants instead of having less with a higher yield per plant. In 3-5 months depending on the strain I pull down anywhere between 1-3 ounces per plant. You also mentioned that you throw them under an HPS? Have you not firgured out how to flower under CFL's or do you find the HPS works better?