Prices are moving up finally

[chazz]

What ticks me off as a grower is clubs...taking crappy B grade outdoor and telling patients it's indoor and charging 50/8th.

Believe me I have visited over 30 clubs....and it happens a lot.

I've seen it happen before a lot. They jack the price up from say 25/30 to 40/50 just flat out wrong.

[pentupentropy]

Can I just ask how it is that some people are finding such good prices while others are not? I have a friend with a dispensary, and he's complaining because he just paid 3400/ea for AAA stuff but last year got it for 2800. His grower went out of business, so he (and, honestly I, maybe because I know so little about it) figured the grower wasn't making enough back to support themselves.

[Purple Daddy]

Can I just ask how it is that some people are finding such good prices while others are not? >>>>>

Depends on where you are located. Last year in No. Cal. there was a pretty large supply come fall which helped push prices down(wholesale). Clubs typically are offering $400-$500 per QP or about $13-$15 and 8th then reselling it for as much as $40-$50 an 8th. My buddy just spent $40 at a club in Sacramento for an 8th. My neighbor just picked up a half oz. for $80.

[weeddaddy50]

Pentupentropy......that is a very question to answer.....the true donation should be in the 3200 to 3800 range to growers, because without that....it is nearly impossible to survive....but it will cost the patients....not more than they are paying now at the dispensry level, as those are guys who are making 100% profit....and killing off the growers as they do it.
I see it all the time......collectives beat down the grower to what ever they can get away with.....the grower who listens to them....talking about establishing relationships....thinking well.....I need to pay my bills....maybe after there patients try my awesome medicine....I can get a higher price.....it never works.....they just lowball some other grower....or get outdoor and tell their customers it....AAA indoor.....and some customers don't know the difference.

My conclusion is "growers who sell below cost" are subsidizing the collectives.....a discount.....and they DO NOT pass that on the the patient.....it's just more money for them......those growers are now finally finding out.....they are really losing money....and it's very hard work....and anything can and will happen......it not as easy as it looks....so they go out of business......Pricing has to come up to a realistic level.....or the quality of the product must decrease....that is the only way.....Also....I believe the patients are starting to realize....that some dispensrys sell crap.....for $50 an 1/8....and they are not buying it.....

Just 2 years ago....the prices were as follows...wholesale....outdoor $2300-$2800....indoor $3500 to $4500

But now you have very greedy collectives.....and growers who are getting into it....and they do not know their true costs.

The established growers....are caught in the middle....some will survive....some will not....some will just adjust and open their own collective and chase the greedy collective out of business.

I for the life of me cannot figure how a collective making 50% to 100% profit on something will go out of business????
what it says to me.....is they are taking a heck of alot of money out......and now they will have to be satisified will less...just "alot"....insted of a heck of a lot.

Collectives who treat their growers in a respectful way....and establish a "fair for both" relationship will floursish...and grow
becasue they will never have to look for medicine for their patients....they would have a standing order at a fair price...delivered....weekly.....just like.....milk...bread....fuel.....those collective who think that way....are way ahead of the game......The other problem.....about half of the collectives are owned by drug dealers....I call them THUGS....very easy to spot those collectives......when you walk in....you can feel it.....once those collective get shut down....and real business minded people replace them.....those collective will flurish.

Sorry for the rant......but.....I have seen it all......and dont even get me started on the brokers.....they are the scum of the earth.

[Purple Daddy]

This is why growers need to work together as a true co-op, operate their own dispensaries and eliminate the middle man. The problem I think is that most growers would prefer to remain anonymous(for good reason) and don't want to deal with the day to day retail end of the business.

[weeddaddy50]

Purple Daddy.....I am doing excatly what you are decribing.....I started my own growers collective....and we are adding patients....and despensing way better quality medicine for a lot less than any collectives.....but we still work with collective who see the big picture, and add more when we find one run by compassionate people who really care about their patients and the growers alike.