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[killerweed420]

I have to wonder about the validity of your statement Killerweed. It is stated there are qualifications to pass to work in the industry. What are these qualifications? If they are using the information from the license application to see if a prospective employee meets them and can therefore determine who a business employs this is a whole lot more than paying to be on a list don't you think? It seems outrageous and un-american for the state to have the final say on who a private business employs past the requirement of nondiscrimination.

But this is based on whether its a level playing field, its not. Its very easy to grease palms in any business or government agency. I've done it in the past. All it takes is a mutually agreed price. Everything is open to corruption, its one of the rules of capitalism. Everything is for sale at the right price.

killerweed420 Reviewed by killerweed420 on 06-27-2011. den of thieves To dispensary owners: anyone having concerns regarding the "Associated Person & Associated Key Medical Marijuana License Application?" Since the supposed spirit of this application is "...because Colorado citizens want the industry and everyone involved in it free from even the hint of any corruption or deceit. Thatâ??s why we take our regulation of the industry very seriously, including the issuance of licenses", and furthermore, "If you pass our qualifications,you will be found Rating: 5

[DenverRelief]

I have to wonder about the validity of your statement Killerweed. It is stated there are qualifications to pass to work in the industry. What are these qualifications? If they are using the information from the license application to see if a prospective employee meets them and can therefore determine who a business employs this is a whole lot more than paying to be on a list don't you think? It seems outrageous and un-american for the state to have the final say on who a private business employs past the requirement of nondiscrimination.

The only requirements are a criminal background check, disclosing arrests, and no back taxes or outstanding student loans.

They do not decide whether an employee is qualified for the job or not. The owner or person in charge of hiring still does that.

[AllenScott]

"but casino dealers are subject to the same background checks from the DOR. Pharmacists are educated and licensed as well." How about janitors at the casino? Cooks? As I understand it this application is for any one working at a MMC. Correct?


"There is no rule coming that require an MMC to take a picture of someone at the time of purchase. " No, not a picture. An image recorded on a DVR and saved for MMED or LEO to review at any time for any reason will be fine. And that DVR will need to interface with MMED real-time monitoring as well. Correct me if I am wrong.


"I don't like the regulations. My job would be a lot easier without them, but they aren't evil in the way some people suggest. It just is." Evil,no. Intrusive as hell? Yep.

[AllenScott]

The only requirements are a criminal background check, disclosing arrests, and no back taxes or outstanding student loans.

They do not decide whether an employee is qualified for the job or not. The owner or person in charge of hiring still does that.

Then why in the hell are they asking for a year of bank statements, children's inf., spouses, financial statements, past residency, etc. for a simple employee?

[DenverRelief]

Then why in the hell are they asking for a year of bank statements, children's inf., spouses, financial statements, past residency, etc. for a simple employee?

I have worked for Denver Relief since it was created as a delivery service over 2 years ago and I have a "support license" which is 75 instead of 250 and means that I don't manage employees or work frequently with the product itself. Our main budtender has the support license as well.

The only people who have been required to apply for the "Key employee license" with the requirements that you speak of are owners and managers that deal directly with the product in quantity on a daily basis.

The support license has a different shorter application and only requires arrest records and 5 years of residency information.

Honestly, I don't know why they take that information, but I know that our employees didn't have any issues getting their badges.

I imagine, the reason they take financials and everything is because it is their task to ensure that black-market "criminals" aren't getting into the industry.

Back taxes and child support were some of the biggest issues I heard preventing people from getting their license.

I'll admit, its a bitch, but I think marijuana decrim and legalization is worth it and I see regulation as a step in the right direction even when I don't really agree with the rules.

[AllenScott]

I asked you cologal if the license application in the link you posted was required of ALL employees and you responded:

"Yep. All dispensary employees. More invasive than a proctology exam. But then we are dealing with a lot of congressional buttholes who are bending over backwards to make life difficult for the mmj world."

It would appear you were not correct in your response. There is a "Support Employee Occupational License Application" on the forms page:

Department of Revenue - Enforcement Group:Forms

This is the information required for a simple employee to be licensed. It's not nearly as inquisitive as the "Key Employee Occupational License Application" for owners and managers. I should have checked your information myself before getting so angry.

Thanks DenverRelief for the redirection.

[AllenScott]

sorry. double post.

[colagal]

I asked you cologal if the license application in the link you posted was required of ALL employees and you responded:

"Yep. All dispensary employees. More invasive than a proctology exam. But then we are dealing with a lot of congressional buttholes who are bending over backwards to make life difficult for the mmj world."

It would appear you were not correct in your response. There is a "Support Employee Occupational License Application" on the forms page:

Department of Revenue - Enforcement Group:Forms

This is the information required for a simple employee to be licensed. It's not nearly as inquisitive as the "Key Employee Occupational License Application" for owners and managers. I should have checked your information myself before getting so angry.

Thanks DenverRelief for the redirection.

Thank you. I stand corrected. I should also have checked in more detail when this was presented to me as the form needed for support employees before I started ranting away. I apologize.

[HighPopalorum]

Teachers in CO have to submit fingerprints. It seems to me that would be sufficient to keep criminals out of key positions in this industry. It also seems silly to subject owners and investors in cannabis businesses to higher scrutiny than teachers and other school employees. Just my .02.

[copobo]

Teachers in CO have to submit fingerprints. It seems to me that would be sufficient to keep criminals out of key positions in this industry. It also seems silly to subject owners and investors in cannabis businesses to higher scrutiny than teachers and other school employees. Just my .02.

yea. with all the wasted effort on employee checks and life histories, they could have spent much more time on product testing and safety. They should start regulating clergy who get to have contact our kids, too... a FAR greater risk than cannabis!