See the post by It's A Plant below. He gives you the second word. As I said, people can be and often are members of multiple communities. It is a bit childish that this would represent a threat to anyone, especially a site like this with a recognized brand and a URL second to none. We could all go away tomorrow and users would still arrive by the boatload on the wake of the URL alone. If anything they should be proud of spinoffs. There is plenty of room for cooperation and cross fertilization. I have come to realize that there are those who set policy (owners) and those that implement policy (moderators). My guess is that moderators have very little influence on the policies that shape the direction this place goes. That must be incredibly frustrating which may explain why we have not seen P4B other mods for some time. I do wish them luck and I hope they are able to sort out their internal differences. I'm have enjoyed this place in the past and hope to continue into the future.