Draft U.S. Paper Allows Commanders To Seek Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes(N.Korea/Iran)

[amsterdam]

wouldnt you want to be prepared?better safe than sorry.

[GHoSToKeR]

prepared for what, amsterdam?

If nobody had nukes, then we would not need nukes. In fact, even if we were to be attacked by a nuclear weapon or device, we still would not need nukes to retaliate. Our armed forces are quite capable of attacking without the use of nuclear weapons.

As stated earlier, America is the only nation to ever use nuclear weapons. If I am to be scared of a nuclear attack or a nuclear war starting anywhere in the world, I should be scared of the US.

[psychocat]

I don't think you actually read my post... I asked you what would your criteria be for a country to own or purchase a nuke? Please don't asnwer "no country should have nukes", because that's not realistic.

Also, tell me why you think that the US is liable to use nukes in agression? If that is so true, why didn't we nuke Iraq and Afghanistan? Why don't we just go ahead and nuke N. Korea before they are a real threat? Ill tell you why, because the US isn't like that!!!!

I know you will bring up Japan, but I suggest you backread to my comments about how the nukes actually saved lives in the long run.

Please answer my question.

So are you saying that the US should be the only country to decide who should and shouldn't have nukes??
Do you not believe that using force to make somebody do what you want them to is dictating to them??
I believe the US is the biggest threat to world peace so why not start by nuking them??
Who gave the US the right to decide what is "good" and what is bad ?
Without the interference in other countries America would have no reason to feel threatened , therefore there would be no need for them to have the largest stockpile of WMD in the world.
Why is it OK for the US to have them ?
Protection against enemies??
If thats the case then surely everyone should be able to defend themselves from outside interference. Nukes for everyone ?

[Hydrizzle]

Ok.... Ghosttoker, the reason I wanted you to answer the question so bad is because you talk like you know what countries should have nukes... I just wanted to know what countries you would like to have nukes that dont already. I wanted to know what criteria the US violated to not allow them nukes... This is the problem with liberals today.... they complain about how shitty things are, but when pressed for solutions, they clam up and start making exuses....

I'm not a politician, member of the government or armed forces, and I don't know jack about nuclear weapons, nor am i professor or anything similiar. How am I supposed to answer the question? How am I going to say what my criteria for allowing countries to possess nuclear weapons would be?

Your entire argument is based on "no-one should have nukes" Well guess what? Me the crazy conservative guy agrees with you! No-one should even have a knife!! The world should be a fuzzy happy place where no one suffers or dies. But that ain't the case, my friend... the world is a cruel, unforgiving place. There is many evil people in the world, some in power over entire countries.... The fact is, nukes exist, they were invented in the past, and now that they are here, we better take care they don't fall into the wrong hands.

Oh, and you say the US would never use nukes!?! Have you read the title of this thread?!?! "Draft U.S. Paper Allows Commanders To Seek Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes(N.Korea/Iran)"

I didn't say the US would use nukes for agression lke you suggested, but they would use them for thier own defense and the defense of thier allies (South Korea, Japan).

Your comment about the US being the ones who haved used nukes in the past, so they are the ones to be afraid of can be countered by this segment of an earlier post of mine....

Yes, we are the only ones to ever use a nuke, but I'd say we had a damn good reason. In case you don't remember 25,851 casualties just in Iwo Jima. Think of the number of dead on both sides if we would have invaded mainland Japan. Thier warrior mentality of no surrender, die with honor would have caused massive casualties. So the nukes, without a doubt, saved lives. Did you know that more civilians died in Japan as a result of firebombs than the nukes? Little known fact. So who should the world be afraid of? Let me tell you, a government with a dictator who hold ALL THE POWER! IF Kim-Jong says launch a nuke, then launch a nuke they shall. They aren't crazy because the US says they are, they are crazy because they put themselves before thier people.

Let me tell you the countries that you really should be afraid of... Pakistan, China, and South Korea. These are the countries that SHOULD NOT be owning nukes. And if Iran ever gets 'em, then they will be on the list too.

[psychocat]

Interesting !!!!
Why have you made no attempt to answer my question about the US policy of telling everyone else what they may or may not do whilst threatening all who refuse to comply.
That is dictating isn't it , isn't the US supposed to be against dictators??

[amsterdam]

Interesting !!!!
Why have you made no attempt to answer my question about the US policy of telling everyone else what they may or may not do whilst threatening all who refuse to comply.
That is dictating isn't it , isn't the US supposed to be against dictators??

do you know what a dictator is?

[GHoSToKeR]

do you know what a dictator is?

These are dictators:

[GHoSToKeR]

Ooooooooh I thought you said dicTAKERS

[amsterdam]

that was a good one,made me laugh in my office and everyone stared.

[Hydrizzle]

No I don't think psychocat knows the kind of dictator i'm talking about.... I'm talking about the ruler of a country who has absolute power.

The US doesn't tell other countries what to do, they do what they want. However, we bribe them with finantial and military aid. If any poor country wants to go against us and watch thier economy go down the drain, they are free to do so. As for the US telling people they can't have WMD's well I think that makes perfect sense! Oh, and we tell Japan and Germany that they can't have a military for a good reason.