Draft U.S. Paper Allows Commanders To Seek Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes(N.Korea/Iran)

[Torog]

Draft U.S. paper allows commanders to seek preemptive nuke strikes(N. Korea/Iran)
Kyodo News ^ | 05/01/05
Posted on 05/01/2005 12:22:02 PM PDT
Sunday May 1, 5:39 PM

Draft U.S. paper allows commanders to seek preemptive nuke strikes
(Kyodo) _ The U.S. military plans to allow regional combatant commanders to request the president for approval to carry out preemptive nuclear strikes against possible attacks on the United States or its allies with weapons of mass destruction, according to a draft new nuclear operations paper. The paper, drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the U.S. Armed Forces, also revealed that submarines which make port calls in Yokosuka, Sasebo and Okinawa in Japan are prepared for reloading nuclear warheads if necessary to deal with a crisis.

The March 15 draft paper, a copy of which was made available, is titled "Doctrine for Joint Nuclear Operations" providing "guidelines for the joint employment of forces in nuclear operations...for the employment of U.S. nuclear forces, command and control relationships, and weapons effect considerations."

"There are numerous nonstate organizations (terrorist, criminal) and about 30 nations with WMD programs, including many regional states," the paper says in allowing combatant commanders in the Pacific and other theaters to maintain an option of preemptive strikes against "rogue" states and terrorists and "request presidential approval for use of nuclear weapons" under set conditions.

The paper identifies nuclear, biological and chemical weapons as requiring preemptive strikes to prevent their use.

But allowing preemptive nuclear strikes against possible biological and chemical attacks effectively contradicts a "negative security assurance" policy declared by the U.S. administration of President Bill Clinton 10 years ago on the occasion of an international conference to review the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.

Creating a treaty on negative security assurances to commit nuclear powers not to use nuclear weapons against countries without nuclear weapons remains one of the most contentious issues for the 35-year-old NPT regime.

A JCS official said the paper "is still a draft which has to be finalized," but indicated that it is aimed at guiding "cross-spectrum" combatant commanders how to jointly carry out operations based on the Nuclear Posture Review report adopted three years ago by the administration of President George W. Bush.

Citing North Korea, Iran and some other countries as threats, the report set out contingencies for which U.S. nuclear strikes must be prepared and called for developing earth-penetrating nuclear bombs to destroy hidden underground military facilities, including those for storing WMD and ballistic missiles.

"The nature (of the paper) is to explain not details but cross spectrum for how to conduct operations," the official said, noting that it "means for all services, Army, Navy, Air Force and Marine."

In 1991 after the end of the Cold War, the United States removed its ground-based nuclear weapons in Asia and Europe as well as strategic nuclear warheads on warships and submarines.

But the paper says the United States is prepared to revive those sea-based nuclear arms.

"Nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missiles, removed from ships and submarines under the 1991 Presidential Nuclear Initiative, are secured in central areas where they remain available, if necessary for a crisis," the paper says.

The paper also underlined that the United States retains a contingency scenario of limited nuclear wars in East Asia and the Middle East.

"Geographic combatant commanders may request presidential approval for use of nuclear weapons for a variety of conditions," the paper says.

The paper lists eight conditions such as "an adversary using or intending to use WMD against U.S. multinational or alliance forces or civilian populations" and "imminent attack from adversary biological weapons that only effects from nuclear weapons can safely destroy."

The conditions also include "attacks on adversary installations including WMD, deep, hardened bunkers containing chemical or biological weapons" and countering "potentially overwhelming adversary conventional forces."

Torog Reviewed by Torog on 05-02-2005. Draft U.S. Paper Allows Commanders To Seek Pre-emptive Nuclear Strikes(N.Korea/Iran) Draft U.S. paper allows commanders to seek preemptive nuke strikes(N. Korea/Iran) Kyodo News ^ | 05/01/05 Posted on 05/01/2005 12:22:02 PM PDT Sunday May 1, 5:39 PM Draft U.S. paper allows commanders to seek preemptive nuke strikes (Kyodo) _ The U.S. military plans to allow regional combatant commanders to request the president for approval to carry out preemptive nuclear strikes against possible attacks on the United States or its allies with weapons of mass destruction, according to Rating: 5

[XTC]

Iam not sure how I feel on this issue. Yes Korea is a threat against the US. But I dont think launching a nuclear holocaust fuck bomb before they do is the right answer. People will die a agonzing death. War should be the last answer to anything that poses a threat.

[Torog]

Iam not sure how I feel on this issue. Yes Korea is a threat against the US. But I dont think launching a nuclear holocaust fuck bomb before they do is the right answer. People will die a agonzing death. War should be the last answer to anything that poses a threat.

Howdy XTC,

I'm curious,do you think that western civilization,should take the first hit ? Do you think that Los Angeles,London,Tokyo or Tel-Aviv,should be nuked first-before we respond ? Why do you feel that we should allow our enemies to strike first..possibly killing over a million folks at once ? Do you think that Israel,should be forced to use every wmd in it's arsenal,to defend it's self ?

Have a good one...

[XTC]

No I dont. But there are better answers than just doing what they are doing. If the US Strikes first, then I am sure Korea or Iran with hit us with the second blow and vice a versa. Perhaps some kind of treaty, meeting, you get the picture. Talk it out before the world goes into some kinda of nuclear holocaust

[Torog]

No I dont. But there are better answers than just doing what they are doing. If the US Strikes first, then I am sure Korea or Iran with hit us with the second blow and vice a versa. Perhaps some kind of treaty, meeting, you get the picture. Talk it out before the world goes into some kinda of nuclear holocaust

Howdy XTC,

Well I'm glad,that you ain't one of them civilians,who're willing to sacrifice millions of Free World citizens..just to be 'fair',to the enemies of Freedom. If we do it right the first time..there will be no 'second-blow'..the sad thing is,is that the citizens of N. Korea and Iran,want freedom..but it is they,who will suffer the most. Kim il Jong and the mullahs of Iran,are basically insane,yet sane enough to succeed in the near-term..if we stand-by and do nothing. Alot of folks,are hoping that Israel will take care of Iran..but that stills leaves NK..we need RNEP's,to destroy their wmd stockpiles and nuclear weapons factories. On the one hand,Iran wishes to destroy Israel and the US,on the other,NK wishes to destroy Japan and possibly England,and of course,South Korea.

Have a good one ....

[nuance]

Well the minute you decide to launch a nuke, nothing matters anymore. You can all start praying for the "god that's on your side". The retaliation will be, to back XTC, a fucking nuclear holocaust fuckfest and everyone gets a piece of the action. Every nation and terrorist organization with a grudge against USA will participate and soon there will be nothing left of this planet. Try self-defending yourself with inalienable right to carry handguns then or fleeing for you life with your 5-liter SUV, dipshit. But it doesn't matter, does it, since you're "going to a better world".

[Torog]

Well the minute you decide to launch a nuke, nothing matters anymore. You can all start praying for the "god that's on your side". The retaliation will be, to back XTC, a f*cking nuclear holocaust f*ckfest and everyone gets a piece of the action. Every nation and terrorist organization with a grudge against USA will participate and soon there will be nothing left of this planet. Try self-defending yourself with inalienable right to carry handguns then or fleeing for you life with your 5-liter SUV, dipsh*t. But it doesn't matter, does it, since you're "going to a better world".

Howdy nuance,

There's no reason for the russians or chinese to join in..not sure about France tho,I reckon that they will be pissed off,that we interfered with their lucrative contracts with NK and Iran..but they'll git over it..we weaned France and Russia, off the oil-for-food program kick-backs,and they seem to be just fine.

I reckon,that you'd rather be a NK slave-laborer or an infidel,payin the dhimini tax..than you would want to be free..I'd rather die fighting,as a free man..than as a coward.

Have a good one....

[XTC]

Howdy nuance,

There's no reason for the russians or chinese to join in..not sure about France tho,I reckon that they will be pissed off,that we interfered with their lucrative contracts with NK and Iran..but they'll git over it..
Have a good one....

You miss the whole point of his post

[nuance]

Howdy nuance,

There's no reason for the russians or chinese to join in..not sure about France tho,I reckon that they will be pissed off,that we interfered with their lucrative contracts with NK and Iran..but they'll git over it..we weaned France and Russia, off the oil-for-food program kick-backs,and they seem to be just fine.

I reckon,that you'd rather be a NK slave-laborer or an infidel,payin the dhimini tax..than you would want to be free..I'd rather die fighting,as a free man..than as a coward.

Have a good one....

1) Read
2) Comprehend

With strong emphasis on the second point. Sure, if someone's attacking, I'll defend myself and my country if needs be. But with a nuke? HAVE YOU COMPLETELY LOST YOUR FUCKING MIND? Over 100 000 civilians died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and that's just the ones that died in the blast and soon after. If the US marines are so fucking great as you keep suggesting, surely a ground attack dismantling the enemy's nuclear facilities would do the job if a peaceful solution cannot be reached. Nuclear weapons are the most horrid invention that man has made and above all, USA should stop their nuclear weapons programs here and now. If USA starts blasting around WMD's, how do they differ from the so called terrorists?

[amsterdam]

while i dont agree with a preemptive nuke strike,i will say that nuclear weapons today are much different today than 50 years ago.you dont have to level an entire city.you can tacticaly nuke part of it.