Yea they are from seed, they are 24 weeks old. I guess I will feed them once or twice more before starting flushing again. Hopefully with some more food and taking the dark period down a bit they will bulk up. I will try to post some more pictures along the way and would def like some input on how you think they are coming along. One more question when the calax swell right before ripeness is this over a period of time or over a shot period? thanks alot.