Brown Spots Leaves Curling Upwards??? Help Me ???

[c.strife]

Thanx for the info Karmaxu just wanted to answer a few questions I don\'t have an ozone generator, when it comes to the nutes I have been using them very little (because i thought this was a salt build up) but I have plants in different stages of growth and I havn\'et gave any nutes to the smaller ones in fear of killing them. Almost all of the plants are showing the same signs of a problem some just to a lesser degree. The only thing I can figure is the problem is one of two things that all of them are getting. That would be my hard ass water or the air, I actually went and got some gals of spring water so I am gonna start using only good water and see how it goes. As far as my temp goes how much bacteria can thrive in those temps its alwayz about 70 at least can get to 80, I ask cuz I got some benifical bacterias and fungi products for the roots and overall plant health will they survive even though I run my temps a lilltle low. I am gona try running the spring water for a while to see if that helps because the water here is high in calcium and mag so much so that using a dishwasher is pointless. The tips of my plant don\'t look burnt because there green still the edges are turned up and they kinda look wrinkly I\'ll get some pic\'s up today thanx for the reply also since i don\'t have an ozone generator what should i do, how important is it to get one.

[Karmaxu]

I would love to see the pictures.

An ozone generator is not important. I mentioned it because in one of my grow rooms which was air tight I took the bulb out of the casing of my ozone generator. In about 48 hours 20% of the leaves had died. The plants were stunted for two months before they kicked back to normal. The ozone bulbs run at a spectrum of about 185.5 nanometers (billionths of a meter) which is ultraviolet B light. It interfers with the frequency of oxygen and causes to form O3 (ozone) by essentially increasing its electrical negativity or making it energized and wanting electrons so it combines with other oxygen atoms. It is not good for your immune system and apparently your plants either. Sure I was introducing 200 times what I needed but still long term I have heard it is not good either.

You could get a reverse osmosis setup to remove the calcium or you may be able to get a charcoal filter which should be fine too. There are also water softeners. If your water ph is above 7.2 you have to much calcium. The amount of pH down you use to stabilize it to much.

Temps 70 - 80 the benifical fungus can thrive. The fungus actually prefers temps around 60 - 70 as opposed to the 80s. I used to get little mushrooms growing up from my pots from time to time in VT and my plants sat on the concrete floor in my basement. 65-75 degrees I would say was average though it may have gotten just slightly cooler at night.

If the tips are not burned then your npk fert levels should be alright. N burns them up and since your plants are in veg I am guessing your N is the highest # as it should be.

What are your N-P-K levels for your products?

How did the first grow go? Did you use different things or feed at different rates.

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[c.strife]

Thanks for all the info, I tested my water on ph strips and it\'s deffinately high in calcium my ph must be an 8 or more so I have been using spring water and look into gettin a reverse osmosis filter down the line when I have extra money. I am hopin to see a change in them how long do you think it would take to see some positive change?? Also do you know if pollen from other plants could pollinate other plants. I have some blueberrys n stuff I plan on growing indoors but I don\'t want to have any negative effects on the others.