Day 39 & still positive..serious advice needed please.

[footballbender]

Please bare with me, this might be a long post and I don't want to scare you away but desperately looking for advice. I'll give you my brief history and the problem i'm about to face this coming weds. in almost 3 days.

Early 30's, 5-9 height, 158 lbs (skinny with a fat gut) and was a chronic daily smoker. I only smoked the good stuff and Smoked with a gravity bong or waterfall (2 liter bottle with hole punched out at bottom) since college. Bongs if I was at a buddy's house. So basically close to 9 years of this style every day. I already had a feeling that the 30 day limit didn't cut it for me. I stopped 39 days ago and 35 days ago a sweet ass job came my way. Actually didn't think anybody would be hiring until April/May time frame. This job is working for the County, so it's basically a government job. I started some exercising at the beginning then got into a rigorous sweating activity a week and a half ago with eating nothing but veggies and fruit. Since my exam is this Weds. I decided to stop the exercising now because i'm suppose to stop before the test and took a home test a couple days later to see where i'm at. That's when the home test kit came out positive and has me stressing out like crazy.

The County is sending me to a hospital to take my pre-employment physical exam this coming Weds. Not one single word of a drug test was mentioned but they handed me a pamphlet about drug and alcohol policy and told me to read up. That's when I noticed in the book about drug testing and the 1st thing I saw under Reason for drug test was preemployment physical. They gave me a sheet to hand to the doctor to fill out and I see in the Laboratory section is (urinalysis, Sugar, Albumen & Acetone), also under it is another space that has "other tests". Also there is a hernia check so no substitution.

I'm going with the water dilution method (posted from N2) and have some questions. My exam is at 1:30pm and I understand about the part to start 3-4 hours to start because I experimented today at 730 and was peeing clear by 10. So i'm guessing if I did this on test day my urine would be too diluted by the time I take it?? I started taking creatine monohydrate on Friday night and have been taking the 1 tablespoon every morning that it mentions (and its making me seriously dehydrated now). I've experimented with the crushed up Vitamin B but it was B12 and only took 6 (500mcg only). after 2 hours still clear. I'm going to get B2 tomorrow and try again.

My concerns are...1) N2's thread is almost 7 years old...does aspirin still work or did they figure that one out? 2) How much urinating can I do before my creatine is almost gone? 3) Since there is a physical involved (probably some waiting time in the waiting room) and I'm forced to hold the urine in instead of letting it out when it feels like the right time....does this make the urine bad? I mean will the THC start working it's way towards my next urine because i'm just holding it in? 4) With the diluting method will this affect the results of these other tests they're doing, like the sugar, albumen & acetone? 5) Would you say I should start diluting around 10am? 6) can I just eat like crazy now or still stick to a diet until two days before? Can I stop at McDonald's the day of the test and have lunch before I go in? 7) I don't understand the part in N2's where it says...if you took your vitamin B in 1 dose, your pee should turn from clear to "vitamin" yellow and remain so for the next 2-4 voids. Be sure you have voided diluted urine at least 3-4 times before you test....is this before I take the Vitamin B?? 8) should I just take gatorade the whole time instead of water or start that around 12ish? 9)double up on creatine on test day? 10) do you think there's even a drug test with this physical?

Please help, again sorry for the long post and I hope I didn't confuse anyone but really need some advice to calm my nerves. Thank you.

footballbender Reviewed by footballbender on 03-28-2011. Day 39 & still positive..serious advice needed please. Please bare with me, this might be a long post and I don't want to scare you away but desperately looking for advice. I'll give you my brief history and the problem i'm about to face this coming weds. in almost 3 days. Early 30's, 5-9 height, 158 lbs (skinny with a fat gut) and was a chronic daily smoker. I only smoked the good stuff and Smoked with a gravity bong or waterfall (2 liter bottle with hole punched out at bottom) since college. Bongs if I was at a buddy's house. So basically Rating: 5

[footballbender]

Please advice needed...110 views and not single piece of advice for any question.

[Jerry G]

Aspirin is no longer needed.

Get the creatine and specific gravity right. You need to do a test run. Use a home test, and get some adulteration strips(that's how you check sg and creatine).

You may only need mild dilution at this point.

[footballbender]

Thanks for the input. Unfortunately at this time it looks like I can only get it online and have to time for that. But if I replace the water for gatorade the SG should hopefully be alright?? and maybe double or triple up on the creatine for the rest of the time. You think that would suffice?

[Deige]

The Gatorade will help with specific gravity and I would increase your Creatine intake slightly, but don't overdo it. Too much Creatine will have you spending most of your time on the toilet.

[footballbender]

Thanks Deige.
178 views and only 2 responses on this whole dilemma.

[webdox]

Thanks Deige.
178 views and only 2 responses on this whole dilemma.

Your point?

[killerweed420]

Given your smoking history I would really recommend subbing with synthetic urine. If you've got time you could pickup some test strips and test yourself at home. If you decide to go the subbing method just practice a little first to keep the temp within range. They usually do the physical frist and then allow you to dress and do the drug test. Keep the sample in your shorts till the physical. Then transfer it to a pocket for the physical with a heat pad wrapped around it. Then transfer it back to your crotch for the urine test.
Subbing really is the safest way to go for us serious smokers.lol It would take me a minimum of 2 months for me to get clean and I don't plan on getting clean just for a piss test.

[footballbender]

Given your smoking history I would really recommend subbing with synthetic urine. If you've got time you could pickup some test strips and test yourself at home. If you decide to go the subbing method just practice a little first to keep the temp within range. They usually do the physical frist and then allow you to dress and do the drug test. Keep the sample in your shorts till the physical. Then transfer it to a pocket for the physical with a heat pad wrapped around it. Then transfer it back to your crotch for the urine test.
Subbing really is the safest way to go for us serious smokers.lol It would take me a minimum of 2 months for me to get clean and I don't plan on getting clean just for a piss test.

Thanks for the game plan and recommendation. I thought about it but decided to just go with the diluted method. So far I experimented on Monday and passed the home test with two solid lines which was with water only. Today I passed the test but the second line just barely showed up and that was a mix of water and gatorade. I'm still debating if they're going to use a cheap ass home test and not worry about the specific gravity and creatine level or just go all out on it. I'm not looking forward to give up my Grav's at ALL but definetly need this job with the economy in shambles.

[Burnt Toast]

I'm still debating if they're going to use a cheap ass home test and not worry about the specific gravity and creatine level or just go all out on it.

This job is working for the County, so it's basically a government job.

If this is actually the case, you can bet the farm that integrity checks will be performed as well as the actual drug check.

Integrity checks are actually SOP in most employment situations, perhaps thanks to the advent of instant-type drug testing kits that feature additional panels for Creatinine, SG, nitrites, pH, etc.

So if you plan on sticking with dilution, you do want to stay on top of your S/G and creatinine levels. You can always order some validity test strips, which are helpful when doing "practice runs".
Do a Google search for "drug adulteration test kits".