lower leaves turning purple-brown

[CanGroIt]

Might be you'd save enough $ to get some fresh nutrients...:thumbsup:

LOL!!!! You just had to throw that out there huh!!!! Too much!!

[monkey_man]

Might be you'd save enough $ to get some fresh nutrients...:thumbsup:

so now i got the water waiting outside for about seven hours, and im thinking maybe it's already good enough to use so i won't have to postpond the flushing/transplanting operation for tomorrow - i found a report from my city water company which gives the maximum amounts of elements and compunds tested for my regional well, and here is it's summary:
(amounts are in mg/L)
Arsenic 0.0005
Barium 0.212
Chromium 0.0095
Nickel 0.0028
Selenium 0.001
Fluoride 1.2
Nitrates 124
dichloroetilane 1,1 - 0.3
dichloroetilane 1,2 - 0.5
trichloroetilane 2.3
Chloroform 0.3
CCl4 0.7

so should i wait for the full 24 hours (or more?!), or can i already flush?

(sorry, but for every answer you give me i got like three more questions...)

[monkey_man]

never mind, it's too late, i'll do it tomorrow...

[monkey_man]

update:
just finished transplanting girl #1
first i flushed it with 15 liters of pH'd water (my tap water is around pH 8.5 :wtf
then i gave it 1.4 liter of pH'd mineral water with 0.175 teaspoon of blackstrap molasses disolved in it.
then i let it sit, while i arranged the new home - an 11 Liter pot, in which i first put a 5 cm layer of hydroton with a bit of lightsoil above.
then i took the plant and rapped a nylon bag around its soil and above it i placed a cardboard which i cut to the middle and added a circular cut in the middle to allow the stem some room.
then i slowely flipped the pot while suppurting my hand below the cardboard - (it was heavy as it was saturated with water).
then i pulled the pot upside - it slided out with ease.
then i pinched the roots a bit (i hope that was right of me to do) and placed it in the new pot, covered the gaps around with new soil and returned the pot to its electric sun.

pictures of the roots and the plant are attached - it appears that the purple color climbed and reached new leaves - it has some beauty to it i must say...

if all goes well i will repeat the opearation with girl #2 tomorrow

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

" isn't watering and feeding the same? i give the plants water with food inside every second day now, about 0.4 liter for each plant "

monkeyman - watering and feeding are two entirely different things, depends on who you ask. It looks like you have a serious case of nute burn or over fertilization. Please flush them....... To avoid this in the future make sure you give plain Ph adjusted water every third or fourth feeding/watering. Personally I nute nute water and flush on week 5 of FL and just before harvest. Reason why I flush on week 5 of flower is because I plan on giving extra strength K on weeks 6 and 7. Just my 2 cents......

Happy Growing......

no, watering is just water, feeding is adding nutes with your water. you look fine, as during flower your plant consumes less nitrogen...this is what you see in your leaves. your plant is diverting its energy from the leaves to the buds. if youre organic feed to the last week then flush otherwise 10 days to fourteen days flush. your plant will still need nitrogen just not that much.

[Farmer Rich]

Hey Monkey Man,

I'll jump in and agree with the last 2 replies.. Especially flushing about every third watering (me, feed 2-3 times, water flush). Your root pics look great for week 5 and I don't think you have any worries. The larger leaves turning color (or dying) the last few weeks of flower is normal, when and how much just varies among different strains. The only other advice I'd add is to possibly start tapering down the strength of your nutes in weeks 6 and 7. I also thought the strength you mentioned mixing earlier was a bit high. Using a 2 part base, I tend to never go over 2.0 ml per litre of either the A or B solution (maybe 2.5 on strains that like a bit more), which is 1/2 of the recommended strength of the brand I use. With my water, this yields a ppm of ~900, with additives I jack it up to about 1100 on the top end. If you're mixing without a meter to measure the results, going a bit lighter on the nutes is much safer and will help you to avoid problems. Also in regard to pH, adding nutes typically reduces it so always balance as the last step.. sorry if I was redundant on that one.

Good luck!

Peace, Farmer Rich

[monkey_man]

thanks for the support guys, however im a bit confused right now,
was that an actual rootbound?
should i pinch the roots while transplanting or should i leave them alone?
does the roots usualy show indication for overfertilization or does the signs only seen in the leaves?
was transplanting the right thing to do?

10 hours after transplanting the plant still looked the same - i expected it to be happy for me after a night in the wet soil but it still looked sad like after 5 days with out watering - was that possibly because of the shock caused by transplanting or messing with its roots?

im planning to starnsplant the other plant tonight, and now i have doubts about it... Rusty where are you? i need your feedback...

and btw & fyi - i live far away from the states, so my nights and your nights are probably not at the same time.

[Rusty Trichome]

was that an actual rootbound?

Yup.

should i pinch the roots while transplanting or should i leave them alone?

Pinch the roots...? During a transplant you massage the rootball a tad to get some of the root tips to pop-out of the rootball and find the fresh soil, if that's what you mean.

does the roots usualy show indication for overfertilization or does the signs only seen in the leaves?
was transplanting the right thing to do?

Roots should be a healthy white, and hopefully not too tightly packed. Troubled roots are a tan, brown or black. A bit late in the cycle, but the transplant was looking necessary.
Roots rolling-around the bottom of the pot shows it's looking to find some fresh (healthy) soil.

10 hours after transplanting the plant still looked the same - i expected it to be happy for me after a night in the wet soil but it still looked sad like after 5 days with out watering - was that possibly because of the shock caused by transplanting or messing with its roots?

Rarely does something good happen overnight. Yes, she will go through transpant shock, but if you treated her gently, she should be fine. Usually takes a few days to recover. Old leaves are old news though...don't expect the damaged leaves to heal. Keep an eye on the new growth to monitor results.

Farmer: although yellowing is fine for late-stage flowering, did you look at his pix? That's not a normal appearance regardless of what stage she's in.

[monkey_man]

thx for the quick reply Rusty,

i knew i should try and loosen the roots somehow, and so i carefully pinched them with my fingers ,but they were very gentle so as a result i actually made small holes around the rootball - i hope that won't cause too much of a problem as some of the root tips are probably now dead because i detached them (though they are still connected to the rootball) .

so tonigh i'll translplant the 2nd plant and this time i'll be more easy on the roots and only message them.

in what rate should i increase the amount of molessas during the next weeks?
also, does the molessas alone will give good results for the final bud swelling? or maybe i should try and give some of my old nut's anyway? (i mean i don't want to take risks for a small difference, but at the moment the buds look like they can still develop and swell alot, and so im wondering if the molasses alone will be sufficient for this job)

also - should i give them some root-juice to stimulate root growth to new soil?

p.s. - the smell is wonderful, a bit like ripe mango or passion-fruit, and pistills started to turn brown.

[sunbiz1]

thx for the quick reply Rusty,

i knew i should try and loosen the roots somehow, and so i carefully pinched them with my fingers ,but they were very gentle so as a result i actually made small holes around the rootball - i hope that won't cause too much of a problem as some of the root tips are probably now dead because i detached them (though they are still connected to the rootball) .

so tonigh i'll translplant the 2nd plant and this time i'll be more easy on the roots and only message them.

in what rate should i increase the amount of molessas during the next weeks?
also, does the molessas alone will give good results for the final bud swelling? or maybe i should try and give some of my old nut's anyway? (i mean i don't want to take risks for a small difference, but at the moment the buds look like they can still develop and swell alot, and so im wondering if the molasses alone will be sufficient for this job)

also - should i give them some root-juice to stimulate root growth to new soil?

p.s. - the smell is wonderful, a bit like ripe mango or passion-fruit, and pistills started to turn brown.

Were the bottom roots stuck to the pot when you transplanted?.