I wouldn't want to be a dispensary or Co-Op with over 100 plants right now...

[hiamps]

Guess mass production by commercial growers is what everyone wants....Patients complain that prices are too high and growers complain that they can't make enough money. If they would let me grow without fear I would gladly supply a dispensary for $150 oz.....But as it is I will wait and watch....

[Lemonhoko]

About costs....

From personal experience only.

3 bedroom house= 1000-1200 dollars per month.(one room for veg, flower, and to sleep in.)
electric cost per month = aprox 300-400 per month average.
Plant food, bulbs, soil, pest control etc....= about 2000 dollars annually.


15 plant limit per person = 5-7 in flower, 5-8 veg and clones.
1 plant with 3 week veg time average strain in one gallon container with average yield = 2 ounces per plant, after +8 weeks of flower time.
Total time to produce the top average of 14 ounces in 12 weeks per season.
That equals a touch over an ounce per week.
If your operating cost are above the cost of making the meds, How is it possible to value even low quality overage for anything less than 250 per ounce????
And at that cost, you barely break even on costs.

As you can see , this is just an average set up, nothing special. But with the plant limits installed by our law, there is no possible way someone can grow their own meds and even break even with cost if they were to sell their overage to dispensaries at the cost represented.

Either the dispensaries start playing fair, or the whole game will end. Its VERY obvious whats going on.....


~Lem

[david98686]

Hey Lemon, you are right, they will gladly take what you have worked for on consignment at half it's value,
the farmer has a history of getting the short end, lucky if you have any extra for yourself after costs and the middleman.

Edit: I've heard dispensaries in Oregon are only offering $150 to growers...

[hiamps]

I find it funny that people want lower than cost prices...I doubt I would add all the rent as most just make do with a part of their house they already pay for. Our electric is only .07 per kilowatt so for 18 hours at 2000 watts it would cost me about $75 per month....All I was saying is the grower takes less or the patient pays more, no matter how you do the math. It is kind of obvious to everyone that a dispensary can't stay stocked from the leftovers of patients....

[Lemonhoko]

I find it funny that people want lower than cost prices...I doubt I would add all the rent as most just make do with a part of their house they already pay for. Our electric is only .07 per kilowatt so for 18 hours at 2000 watts it would cost me about $75 per month....All I was saying is the grower takes less or the patient pays more, no matter how you do the math. It is kind of obvious to everyone that a dispensary can't stay stocked from the leftovers of patients....

I burn 9k watts +, thats just the lights.

[killerweed420]

I thought that everybody wanted the prices to come down? If the intiative passes weed will be widely available for $100 an ounce. If you want high prices then call your legislature and tell them you want them to pass there bill. That will guarantee prices stay high.

[hiamps]

I burn 9k watts +, thats just the lights.

Ouch! And I bet your power company is way higher than mine. I just use 2 and tracks and my little bit still seems better than most dispensary smoke. About to start treatment for skin cancer, will need it.

[Lemonhoko]

Ouch! And I bet your power company is way higher than mine. I just use 2 and tracks and my little bit still seems better than most dispensary smoke. About to start treatment for skin cancer, will need it.

Sorry if off topic. ...

Skin cancer is serious....have you considered the Rick Simpson thing?

Let me know if I can help in any way....


~Lem

[hiamps]

Sorry if off topic. ...

Skin cancer is serious....have you considered the Rick Simpson thing?

Let me know if I can help in any way....


~Lem

It will mostly be up to the VA...kind of wait and see....will search Rick Simpson. Thanks...

[ionmagic]

hi, fellas! i love you guys....especially you, lovely LEMON! ..... hiamps!~ have you tried medicated skin oil for your skin cancer? ...like olive oil, or calendula oil, or almond oil....only medicated.....a sweet oil, and you just medicate it as much as you can handle, and then slather it on....everywhere, all over....as much as you can make your skin drink....sit in a pail of it......over and over and over and over....keep doing it, slathering it on....rub yourself all over, every square inch....soon, you skin will be "satisfied" and you will see what THEY call skin cancers is simply cannabinoid-deficiency (even if provoked by damage.)

I had skin cancer...the basal cell sort, not the malignanat melanoma kind; and also all kinds of raggity ass nasties from decades of damage and skin malnourishment (no cannabinoids). I oiled all over my skin/...every slick inch of it, time and time and time again, until it just couldn't suck up another drizzle...i musts been 10 hours rubbing my skin with warm sweet oil, then got loaded and went to bed. and ...poof!...cancer gone, and no sign of it returning since; t's been over a year.) I used a quart of oil every month or two, now, and less and less all the time. Your skin is your largest organ...and it can suck up the cannabinoids. Let it.

I've ALSO seen a video where someone applied a DIFFERENT KIND OF cannabis OIL...the oil extracted FROM cannabis (vs. oil infused with cannabis)...it is thick and sticky... "rick simpson=type oil" .,,,,the vid showed the malignant skin cancer thing just friggin failing.... giving up the ghost and and just falling away.... in days.

gotta run, no battery bank, so slim time online....but, i'll be back!
love you, love you, love you,
ion

awww...now i'm all worried AND pissed (about all this dispensary "get rich quick" scheming, price setting, quality coniving, and deceptive market "standard setting" [convincing patients that overbreasted hydro indica "meds" can do anything but get 'em shitf"ed and stoned..... till the next time you need some meds (easy delivery.)

I KNOW they don't think they're doing the same thing as every other profiteering greed monger in US history, has done, but, they are.

what are we going to do?


if you'd like me to make you oil, h, i will.

i'm so happy to find this conversation! ...i ventured into the dispensary marketplace and danced around awhile and,...ouch! lots of cali weed .and NO...zero.... MARKET FOR LOCAL, ORGANIC, OUTDOOR.....and get this, here's why: because the patients don't want it. wtf? best price on the market for 600gr (and only as a consolation for being such a wonderful personality) was $1/gr fuck that shit. I'll smoke it myself...geeze, i just wanted to HELP share the load!

so....i gave a good chunk of it to two very grateful patients i trust.

we're going to have to do "local growers" the way the local "farmers" (as in fruit and veg) are doing it: if you didn't grow it here, you can't market it here; otherwise CALI will suck us all dry. friggin selfish moneychangers.

I don't see big pharma giving away any free drugs.

...hmmm...i see it all the time...first they give you the scare, then the prescription, then the samples, then.....they friggin ruin another country or two, and laugh at the zombies.
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