Good article on Compassion Centers...Finally a patients perspective of CC's

[oceangrown]

First off, I am an honest man so even if I was affiliated with them, it wouldn't change my perspective seeing as I could completely dismantle everyone of your rebuttles because none of them have any facts to support'em. You claims are that of a child and only make you look small minded. Stick to advocating and let the business/marketig analysis to those that actually know what they are talking about.

Second, let me just get to the heart of why you are so wrong....lol

For as much as I would enjoy disecting every eroneous statement you made, I don't think I need to go farther as shedding some light onto the fact that you don't have the fogiest clue about either. So, I'll start with you claiming that Montana is a good comparrision. The only thing they have in common is population size...that's it. And if you think that makes it a comparable model, they you don't know squat about business, marketing or MM...

And, here's why!!!

1. Montana a dessert waste land with several patches of mountains, grasslands and forestry, commonly refered to as cowboy country because almost its entire demographic is cowboys. RI, is one of the most culturally diverse market places in America, well known throughout corporate america as a multing pot of diversity keen for market testing consumer products. Nothing like Montana here, and from a marketing perspective this point alone makes it a horrible comparable. Not to mention only a few CC's even used or mentioned Montana as a comparable where you implied that they all did which is insane because they all clearly did not if you read them...please stop talkin out your butt!

2. RI's program is completely different than Montana's! For instance, Montana(a)There is no process for caregiver registration besides having a new or existing patient name you as their caregiver No BCI here. (b) One CG per patient, (c) Then, after you are approved by the state and receive your medical card, you and your caregiver (if designated on the form) may each legally grow up to six plants, and possess up to one ounce of usable marijuana.

3. RI patients have more access to more plants (12) "Montana (6)", CG's (2) "Montana (1)", and can hold more MM at 2.5 oz's, per patine "Montana (1 oz.)", yet our program, who has fewer patients and is a little over 1/10th the size of Montana's program and it's only a year behind RI's and are comparable??? We don't even have a major MM competitor right next door, with amazingly lax legislation like Canada, whose been at this game a lot longer than the US.

With all of these variables taken into consideration the two states have about as much in common as bird to a cow...but hey they both breath air so we should treat them the same way...right...lmfao

The only other point which makes me said, but expresses my concern with your obvious know jack sqwat about non profits, mareting or starting a business. Why, becase a Garden Co-op is a charitable organization that creats affordable space for those who cannot afford to grow on their own. The whole reason the Fed's give these organizations tax-exempt status is to help off-set the organizations costs so they can provide resource to the poor who could not afford them otherwise. A 501(c)(3) is by law defined as a charitable organization...Einstien

Ironically, CC's are mathmatically predispostioned to provide better quality meds than any caregiver...another indisputable fact you and several other CG's will cry is wrong.

Let me get real with you for a moment since you are a little unfamiliar with reality...it's call math matical probability. A constant well known and prove. It states that you have a highner probabilyt at finding the best answer (in this case phenom) if you have more opportunities to succeed. In other words, CC's have a better shot at getting the best phenom because they can lay down a hundred seeds, offord to toss the inferrior phenom in favor of the best stains and experiment with a wider range of grow techniques than a CG's with a limited budget who can only lay down 12 at a time.... In other words, mass production has historically destroyed the lil guy...It's call the WalMart Effect. Besides as people not wanting to be seen, you obviously miss the 14 plans who said they would offer delivery!!!

So please, stick to advocating and backing a bunch of punks like the clowns at 1000W who have already made the RI MM society look like a bunch of childish idiots... Let me guess, you are affiliated with or one of them at 1000W is your CG....Sucks when someone says shit about you when they don't really know the truth, doesn't it!!!

If you wanna step up to the plate and take another swing at it, please make sure you actually know all of the supporting facts. Everyone has a theory, but delusion is a world which only those lost in their own BS belong.

When you can actually prove one of these crazy theories of yours, please post it. Until then, you just look like a know it all fire starter who doesn't belong in an analytical postion. Please, just make sure you've got you facts straight... Your gonna give this Forum a bad name, but, I guess you and the guys at 1000W are just do good at it, it makes it kinda hard to quite.

By the way, the second that "1000W" article hit the news, two competitors decided to sprout up!!! Unfortunately for your team, one of the actaully knows how to put out a quality magazine and not rip off articles from other publications because they have little to no talent of their own....Hey, I just said what other who come from a place of intellegence were thinking.....hahaha IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S TRU....LOL

Ill summarize your post in 3 words or less...

Blah, blah , blah , .

We will see who knows what , 18 months from now......:rasta:

[madmikeRI]

"Where's the compassion."
"How much longer are we going to wait."

Where is the compassion?
Not in any of the applications that have been presented in the past 2 years.
How long are we going to wait?
Until someone who wants to help patients not themselves applies.

Personally, I hope they reject all the applications, just as they did last year. It would be nice to have another option on where you get your meds, but until a viable option is presented, we will have to deal with the two we currently have. In addition, if there is not compassion center the 2 bad bills that have been presented to take away caregiver rights will now be taking away the only source of medication and would be a lot more likely to fail.

[theccman]

Where is the compassion?
Not in any of the applications that have been presented in the past 2 years.
How long are we going to wait?
Until someone who wants to help patients not themselves applies.

Personally, I hope they reject all the applications, just as they did last year. It would be nice to have another option on where you get your meds, but until a viable option is presented, we will have to deal with the two we currently have. In addition, if there is not compassion center the 2 bad bills that have been presented to take away caregiver rights will now be taking away the only source of medication and would be a lot more likely to fail.

Now, I don't know the intentions of some of the CC's, and yes, I have met a few candidates but I tend to agree with you. I will never back someone unless "I fell" they are coming from a place of integrty. Even though I may feel Hope is such a center, I really don't know.

Just like only smart thing Oceangrown said, they really can easily say one thing and do another and get away with it, a long as no one holds them accountable that...

Well, you are so right! If all the CC's get rejected, they simply cannot pass the bill...

Atleast, that's what one would think!!! I wouldn't put it past them though...to me, it sounds like a clever backdoor method to whip out the program entirely...Just like Oceangrown destroyed all his credibility because he is completely unaware of the fact surrounding reality, the government pretty much does what it want regardless of what the facts, reality and it's constituant want...such is life I guess...lol

But hey, lets see what Oceangrown has to say about it, he seems to think he knows everything regardless of the FACT though he has no documentable proof to support his theories..lmfao!!! My Marketing affiliates couldn't stop laughing after I told them what he said....there response? Welcome Back To RI, where the ignorant think there geniuses
and the smart ones are intellegent enough to keep their mouths shut when dealing with them...

What can I say, I'm not from RI. I choose to be here because I know I can make a difference and help those in need. Besides, I still take pleasure in smacking around someone who is clearly misleading people and cannot substantiate his theories with any fact grounded in reality....and I'm the Delusional one!!!!

You gotta love Rhody

[oceangrown]

Gotta love the guy who knows everythinig , but knows nothing at all. CC , why don't you post some of your caregivers " Hope apothecary's" meds. So we can see the quality behind this stellar , Im sorry flawless business plan!

So your marketing affiliates ... SO this whole post is an advertisement for your "affiliates " your in business with ? hmmmm

What facts do you want?

Your just another guy "clown" from outta state , coming here to cash in on MM. You are not at all concerned about helping anything, other then your own wallet . You have done nothing but pitch crazy plans in your posts here. Trying to put together large "illegal " distribution networks with cg's. Now it seems your HA's head clown!

Like I said we will see in 18 months , who know's what !

[oceangrown]

:rasta:
My patients are medicating with this, what will HA offer! LOL

Some fluffy flarf nugs for $200!! ahahah

[theccman]

Not impressed, buds look to airy which doesn't say much for your crystal count... I like dense buds, crystals, dank...

Sorry Jr., nice try, your talking to a guy who can get 2Lbs from one plant and has seen many singular 4 oz. buds... If your main cola barely measure 11" (if the very one you are showing us is the main, which it looks like it is) it's about half an o, tops...

You still don't get it you moron...any CC can drop over a hundred seeds of any phhnom and find a mother that will smoke anything most CG's can only dream to get, at least a lot quicker anyways....

How the hell do you think most of the new killer strains in cali and euro strains created, some CG sitting in a small grow room planting a few seeds a month....YEA RIGHT!!! CC's, by their very nature will "Eventually" have better strains than almost every CG (unless your that guy sitting in a room...lol). Cali has proven that time and time again. Ironically, when cali first legalized their meds, it was more than a year or so before they actually started producing the strains we are all lookin for now. Again, another reality all CC's refused to acknowlede accept for Hope...

The bottom line is, if you get a grower, growing in a CC that knows these priciples and more, you'll be outta business in no time...lol

Of which, brings me to my last point, do you want to know the real reason I think Hope should get it! They actually plan to canvass/survey the RI market to find out which strains is in the most demand and start growing them on top of the 30+ strains they have in mind to grow....NOT ONE OTHER CC APPLICANT EVEN IMPLIED THAT THEY WOULD DO THIS FROM WHAT I SAW!!!!! Which clearly implies that they don't care. If you knew the science behind MM, you'd quickly discover as I have. When you taking MM as a medicine almost all MM is very similar with variations in potency depending on the strain, but it is easily remedied by adding more MM to the recipie.

Now, the people who really do care about all the the many different strains, levels of smell, potency, etc...are the smokers! Realistically, these factor don't really matter at all, unless you smoke it!!! Of which, ironically, has very little medicinal value for most patients accept expanding ones ability to simple forget about how miserable pain they are in, not to mention cause other health problems which could be terminal, that's it!

Ironically, I was all for CC's until a member reminded me of one fact, IF NO CC'S GET APPROVED, THEY CAN'T TAKE AWAY ARE RIGHT TO GROW!!!! So, now honestly I'm torn. If I had to choose between having my right to grow or use a CG and having a CC...I must admit...I'd rather not have any CC's :-(

Now, let guess, Blah, Blah, Blah...lmfao These forum are meant to educated and elighten with facts not fantasy. Like the fantasy that makes you believe that you've got skillz or know what you are talkin about, when you have not facts to back any of that up...

[theccman]

Gotta love the guy who knows everythinig , but knows nothing at all. that's funny, I back up my words with fact, yet you don't and I still know nothing...DELUSIONALCC , why don't you post some of your caregivers " Hope apothecary's" meds. Yet again, showing everyone how stupid you are, HA can't be a CG, it's a CC, PLEASE STOP EMBARASSING YOURSELF!!!So we can see the quality behind this stellar , Im sorry flawless business plan!Thank for proving my point, again, you really love to twist peoples words, what a confussed child. PS Einstien, never said either, just said it was the best out of a bunch of bad ones...what a fricken looser!!!

So your marketing affiliates ... SO this whole post is an advertisement for your "affiliates " your in business with ? hmmmm

Apparently, you can't read either, because I've said many times I am not an affiliate, I am manager for a retail store, and just because you keep saying its so, doesn't make it any more right. Let me guess, I've been a member of this board longer than most people here so I could set everyone up and make them believe a CC, that doesn't even exist yet, get's the nod....Your even more stupid than I realized!

What facts do you want?
Any would be nice!!! Other than Montana is the same demographic, which even a fricken college freshman would know that statement is so wrong its criminal...unlike someone

Your just another guy "clown" from outta state , coming here to cash in on MM. Don't need money, not a CG, and I don't believe in profiting from other peoples misery which you admitedly do!!!

You are not at all concerned about helping anything, other then your own wallet .

You have done nothing but pitch crazy plans in your posts here. Trying to put together large "illegal " distribution networks with cg's. Now it seems your HA's head clown! Now, lets look at your idiot claims and how you clearly contradict yourself... First, I'm flattered that I would actually inspire you to do some actual research before you open your mouth, it' a first. Second, I know the law very well and would never do anthing illegal! The plan is no different than many that are attempts to help drive the prices down (I guess you selective eye sight missed those points in the post, still try'n to twist words I see. And here's the funniest point you ass clown! So, let me get this straight, according to you I'm HA's head "clown", yet, I've been trying to establish a network that would literally close everyone of them down by getting meds to patients for 50 to 150 an oz....hhhmmmmmm...OH MY GOD, YOU FOUND ME OUT, WHATEVER AM I GOING TO DO???

Like I said we will see in 18 months , who know's what !

In 18 months, no one will want to buy you meds', legally that is!!! You're probably the reason I tried to start the collaborative in the first place. You also forget, RI is very small and I am all but certain I will meet you before that 18month deadline you brag about... Which, by the way, is the weakest threat I've ever heard because you don't even say "what" is going to happen in 18 months??? I know enough, your a clown, you can support anything you say with facts, your bud are OK, and you like to take other peoples words and twist them, your psychic, your so stupid you call me a know it all when it was you know it all (yet know very little) attitude is what started this back and forth...

I'm tired of having a battle of wit's with an unarmed person... your getting kinda pathetic so I think I will choose to ingnore your weak willed words and move onto something more constructive, like laughing at how smart you think you are when you word, grammer and mentality clearly show how ignorant and petty you are...

What's next, your father gonna beat up my father...lol Please come at me with more than that....what a joke you are.

I don't have to wait 18 months, I'm already laughing and will be all day thanks to you... God knows if I met you over a decade ago I put you in the ground... You better thank God I'm a better man now with more important things to do than create lies to try to gain favor...GOOD LUCK WITH THAT!!!

[Tension]

theccman, your a tool and a forum troll.

[oceangrown]

Not impressed, buds look to airy which doesn't say much for your crystal count... I like dense buds, crystals, dank...

:rasta:

Sorry Jr., nice try, your talking to a guy who can get 2Lbs from one plant and has seen many singular 4 oz. buds... If your main cola barely measure 11" (if the very one you are showing us is the main, which it looks like it is) it's about half an o, tops...
SO you admit you grow plants that yield 2 lbs? So then your also admitting to breaking state law
Post one picture of a plant you grew that yielded 2lbs or had 4oz buds.You are still proving your a delusional liar
You still don't get it you moron...any CC can drop over a hundred seeds of any phhnom and find a mother that will smoke anything most CG's can only dream to get, at least a lot quicker anyways....
What book did you read this in , Id like a reference please

How the hell do you think most of the new killer strains in cali and euro strains created, some CG sitting in a small grow room planting a few seeds a month....YEA RIGHT!!! CC's, by their very nature will "Eventually" have better strains than almost every CG (unless your that guy sitting in a room...lol). Cali has proven that time and time again. Ironically, when cali first legalized their meds, it was more than a year or so before they actually started producing the strains we are all lookin for now. Again, another reality all CC's refused to acknowlede accept for Hope...
Again shows how ignorant you are . CC's don't start seeds out there, for selection purposes. yes, it is the small people hiding in the woods doing the real breeding. SO prior to the 1996 passing of prop 215 there was no quality marijuana in Cali your saying? Even my 79yr old grandmother ,could tell you that there was lots of amazing strains prior to any CC or dispensary opening in Cali. Thought right there shows you how clueless you really are....

The bottom line is, if you get a grower, growing in a CC that knows these priciples and more, you'll be outta business in no time...lol

Of which, brings me to my last point, do you want to know the real reason I think Hope should get it! They actually plan to canvass/survey the RI market to find out which strains is in the most demand and start growing them on top of the 30+ strains they have in mind to grow....NOT ONE OTHER CC APPLICANT EVEN IMPLIED THAT THEY WOULD DO THIS FROM WHAT I SAW!!!!! Which clearly implies that they don't care. If you knew the science behind MM, you'd quickly discover as I have. When you taking MM as a medicine almost all MM is very similar with variations in potency depending on the strain, but it is easily remedied by adding more MM to the recipie.
People want QUALITY meds , not QUANTITY meds. Look at the other markets

Now, the people who really do care about all the the many different strains, levels of smell, potency, etc...are the smokers! Realistically, these factor don't really matter at all, unless you smoke it!!!
Good flavor transfers over to extracts , hashes and tinctures . Taste matters

Of which, ironically, has very little medicinal value for most patients accept expanding ones ability to simple forget about how miserable pain they are in, not to mention cause other health problems which could be terminal, that's it!


Ironically, I was all for CC's until a member reminded me of one fact, IF NO CC'S GET APPROVED, THEY CAN'T TAKE AWAY ARE RIGHT TO GROW!!!! So, now honestly I'm torn. If I had to choose between having my right to grow or use a CG and having a CC...I must admit...I'd rather not have any CC's :-(
Again your full of shit . SHow one of your infamous 2lb plants !! Proof is in the pudding and your full of shit

Now, let guess, Blah, Blah, Blah...lmfao These forum are meant to educated and elighten with facts not fantasy. Like the fantasy that makes you believe that you've got skillz or know what you are talkin about, when you have not facts to back any of that up...

Is this you looking in the mirror talking to yourself:wtf:


Seriously , post 1 picture of your 2lb plants! If you do Ill go away to neverland....

http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...ml#post1974678 -

You talking about your 4 ounce 11 plant crop . YOUS GOTS THE SKILLZ BRAH..

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I once had a crop...

At one time I took about 11 plants from seed to flower under some HO florescent tube they only put out about 37K lumes an I barely got 4 oz. out of the whole crop...wtf Did search for the best phenom but cottom candy was yummy. Bud's were super light and airy. Won't do it again! Would love to see how yours works out though. Going RDWC in about a month with a complete custom 20 Gal. 4 plant set-up to see how it goes for my personal use.

Rumor has it that a 13 Gal RDWC puts out well over an lb a plant??? Very scepticle but the science and theory is sound. Only time will tell. Not doing a grow log until I see end result. Keep us posted on your progress... I, for one, am very interested for obvious reasons...lol

In the last paragraph , you say growing a 1lb plant with that as a rumor??? Im confused, I thought you grew 4lb plants!!!!:hippy::hippy:
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[madmikeRI]

Stop Feeding the Troll!!