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    #11
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    This time at hour 17 I stuck the meter as far as it would go into the soil ( about six inches ) and both plants were 10, wet. So even though the moisture level is less at 3 inches I probably will not be watering again until veg day 13. The pH in the soil is steady in both at 6.7, 6.8.

    Emmie - As long as the soil doesn't over dry, the roots should be fine. I may be wasting my time with this or not but I like to experiment. I'm sure I can get clones from the bigger plant if the smaller one dies from my curiosity.... These two are just the beginning of an SOG I'm going to start
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    #12
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    Quote Originally Posted by emilya
    There has got to be more evaporation with the air flowing through too. How much of the water use is that and how much is the plants using more is the question.
    It's a gravity thing... water drains downwards.

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    #13
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    After 41 hours of the air pump 30min on and 30min off and only one cup of water, the moisture meter is reading a 6 moist in the soil of the smaller plant. The meter read 7 moist in the soil of the larger plant. The smaller plant is growing at about the same rate still.......
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    #14
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    Quote Originally Posted by CanGroIt
    Ok so the single biggest reason of wanting to try this is the mere fact that it can take 2-3 days between watering/feeding. I am doing this in an attempt to water/nute more often. I know that the moisture naturally dries when the plant roots absorb the moisture. With this pump pumping air into the soil, it should dry faster and allow me to water/nute more often.
    Have you thought of using more perlite in the soil? When 'blow-drying' the medium, there is a fine line between drying the medium, and killing the roots. Likely best not to cross that line.

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    #15
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome
    Have you thought of using more perlite in the soil? When 'blow-drying' the medium, there is a fine line between drying the medium, and killing the roots. Likely best not to cross that line.
    No I didn't think of that and yes I will be trying that sometime soon.

    This experiment is officially done. On Veg Day 20 I took cuttings and needed the air pump for my bubbler. Getting the cuttings to root has much more importance to me than killing the root zone. However now that these two are in my flower box, the smaller one seems to be growing better than the larger one. Now they are about the same size. Will post pics in a bit.
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    #16
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    The first pics posted on this thread were of day 9 veg and not day 11 like they are named.

    Here are some pics of the last week or so. On the pic of Day 2 Flwr, the plant on the right is the one that had the air blown into the soil during veg. I did take more cuttings from the one on the left so maybe that is why it doesn't look as great as the other. I would have let them veg longer to get the 24 cuttings i wanted but I want to get these budding as soon as possible. I am more than sure I can get the 24 in a couple weeks from the 14 cuttings I just took................

    More to come, Late

    CanGroIt
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    #17
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    They just finished up their 11th day of 12 hour lighting. Coming out nice so far.....
    The third pic is the one that had the air pumped roots during veg.


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    #18
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    Cool! Oh, well at least you tried, right? So did you conclude it's not worth it to do this, or are we waiting for further experiments? BTW, I love the scrog netting...that took some work! I will call you "Weaver" from now on! LOL!

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    #19
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    your experiment has merit,HOWEVER,you need more control over it to precisely figure out whats happening....,if you try again,seperate the subjects(lol)totally(if you can)and try upping your lights to at least double what you have now(Y-connectors)i.e. 18,000+ lumins...if nothing else,your plants will explode with growth during veg

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    #20
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    O2 Injections to Roots......

    Quote Originally Posted by TANKJR
    Cool! Oh, well at least you tried, right? So did you conclude it's not worth it to do this, or are we waiting for further experiments? BTW, I love the scrog netting...that took some work! I will call you "Weaver" from now on! LOL!
    I think it might be worth a try in the future. For now, its on hold. Working on an SOG for my next grow. Never done one before so this should be interesting. The netting I weaved is for my SOG. I weaved two of them. Didn't take that long either.

    AZ - I'm going to be adding four CFL's. But I don't want to pay for something I already have. I'm just too lazy to drive the 3 hrs for something I forgot. So for now, these will do.
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