Curiosity poll

[TheReleafCenter]

You think becouse they have security camras in walmart that this kind of intrusion is ok?By the way most every store I shop at does not

You try to smooth it over as no big deal.Well to us that have been using cannabis as long as you have been alive or longer it is a big deal.

No, I think the federal government can enter any MMC and confiscate video of you. A lot of these concerns, to me, don't have anything to do with the Department of Revenue. They, for the most part, have tried to handle this well. From their website:

Colorado legislation passed in 2010 assigned regulatory authority of Medical Marijuana Centers, Infused Product Manufacturers and Optional Premises Cultivations (Grows) to the Colorado Department of Revenue. The legislation created the need for the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment â?? which maintains the Medical Marijuana Registry â?? to share limited, non-personally identifying information with the Department of Revenue so that DOR can verify the numbers of patients for which a marijuana center is serving as the marijuana provider. Names of patients on the registry would not be shared.

A confidential, secure data base system could provide the most economical and efficient method for the two agencies to share needed information. No such system of sharing of Medical Marijuana Registry information between the agencies has yet been created. And, more importantly, any system to be created shall maintain all current patient confidentiality safeguards, which meet the requirements of the constitutional amendment.

It also is intended that any new data base system would provide law enforcement with access 24 hours a day/7 days a week, as required by the legislation, to verify whether or not an individual has an active marijuana registry card. This capability also would meet the legal requirements of the constitution and of the new laws. Law enforcement only would be able to access the system with information provided to them directly by the patient in order to defend their possession of Medical Marijuana, and access to the database will be conducted in accordance with state

[shpedoinkle]

Although I'd prefer not to be taped, I will re-register (just did a few months ago) and will continue to shop at MMCs.

My feelings too. My re-register is coming up and yes I will be doing it again.

[MtnLionCO]

I will renew my card only because I grow my own personal supply and it protects me legally. I will not be shopping at dispensaries at all.

[SoCoMMJ]

Every time you go to Wal-Mart to buy Tampons and Cheetos you are on video. Not much privacy there. Go to your bank, the library, the porn shop, restaurants, the liquor store, the casino, etc etc.

I don't understand the fear of cameras. You probably get videoed more than 100 times a day already. They are literally everywhere now.

You think as a patient there is a big risk of the feds getting the video of you buying you 3 grams of meds? Think about the risk that the dispensary is taking for your ability and convenience to purchase meds there. Storing videos for the required 40 days will include a very large number of sales that will put them away FOREVER. Minor purchasing/possession is very different than repeated felony sales and large volume possession.

Seems like I saw somewhere that the closeup of redcard and purchase volumes were eliminated from the draft rules for purchases, but the rules have since been dropped from the DOR website. I guess we'll see what shakes down on the final rules once they are published.

I guess it boils down to, if you aren't doing anything wrong, why the worry about cameras watching you? They were watching you last time you picked up your Viagra prescription at Walgreens.

That ought to stir up the "pot" :thumbsup:

[HighPopalorum]

Every time you go to Wal-Mart to buy Tampons and Cheetos you are on video. Not much privacy there. Go to your bank, the library, the porn shop, restaurants, the liquor store, the casino, etc etc. I don't understand the fear of cameras. You probably get videoed more than 100 times a day already. They are literally everywhere now.

Not everywhere. There are certain communications that are privileged above others. Attorneys and clients, priests and penitents, husbands and wives and doctors and patients. There's a case to be made that medical marijuana providers should protect the privacy and dignity of their patients the same way doctors do, which would preclude the use of cameras to record the purchases and conversation of patients.

I'm not sure I agree with that argument, but there it is. I do believe there are ways the DoR can enforce its mandate to regulate MMCs without filming purchases.

[Stickybooger]

Surprised to hear this comment SOCO. "I guess it boils down to, if you aren't doing anything wrong, why the worry about cameras watching you." First this sounds word for word what law enforcement world say, and second MMJ is illegal. No one seems to care about personal privacy anymore.

[SoCoMMJ]

And just to clarify.. I really don't endorse the whole camera thing. After meeting with the lawyer tonight going over 80 pages of proposed retarded MMC rules, I think 97% of all that is an unnecessary crock of hoooey.

Besides, who wants to spend 50k+ on a video system as defined by the state when you could build your own similar security camera system for a couple grand.

Not sure even why they would want to record patient transactions anyways. They would only be interested if patients were surfing multiple MMCs to resell to the black market is my guess. But how are they going to see that on video?

I guess I'm just saying that you don't have as much privacy now as you think you might. This is just another one of those instances.

[SoCoMMJ]

I do believe there are ways the DoR can enforce its mandate to regulate MMCs without filming purchases.

I agree. And as I mentioned earlier, previously the DOR had in the draft rules that the transaction be placed in a 12x12 area with red card, ID, and scale image of product being sold. I believe that requirement was dropped in favor of just a long view of the counter, as in a security view. No audio. But I can't confirm that since they pulled down the current version of the rules.

Due to the nature of the business, there would ALWAYS be cameras regardless of DOR mandate. But they would be placed and aligned as SECURITY cameras, not transactional recordings.

Remember, by just entering a dispensary, you have already breached your own privacy by presenting your Red Card and ID.

This whole mess really sucks, but it's better than a non med state.

[DenverRelief]

Matt Cook stated at the recent House Committee session that the most commented on piece of the new regulations was in regards to privacy. While he made no specific mention of what is to come, he definitely hinted that the proposed rules would be changing in favor of the patient.

I know that new proposed rules regarding the privacy issue were recently submitted to the DOR. These proposed rules removed the videotaping of the entire patient visit and suggested a single still photo upon entering the premises which could be cross referenced with time stamping of purchases in the POS.

These proposed rules were submitted by some of the members of the DOR rule making committee.

[DenverRelief]

SoCo, it hasn't been dropped yet. Final rules will be out shortly. Compliance Officers begin on 3/1 and Enforcement Officers begin on 7/1.