Outdoor to indoor - First grow more info

[highlexster]

is fine to grow a outdoor plant indoor? This is my first time that I've been attempting to grow an cannabis plant, at the very begin of it I had no acknowledge at all so that's why i choose the wrong plant for my environment. Right now what i doing is growing this outdoor plant inside of a cardboard box which i think is a good setup for an indoor plant due at size of it. What i want to know is a outdoor plant can be managed to not over grow on the cardboard box doing the early flowering with 12hr cycles? :rasta::rastasmoke::thumbsup:

My grow box specification:
2x lights cfl 100watts 2800 lumens each
cardboard box 24x27x24 inside part wrap in aluminum foil
2x cpu fans
room humidity 40% up to 60
temperature 76F up 80F

P.s. Sorry about my spell mistakes guys.

highlexster Reviewed by highlexster on 02-15-2011. Outdoor to indoor - First grow more info is fine to grow a outdoor plant indoor? This is my first time that I've been attempting to grow an cannabis plant, at the very begin of it I had no acknowledge at all so that's why i choose the wrong plant for my environment. Right now what i doing is growing this outdoor plant inside of a cardboard box which i think is a good setup for an indoor plant due at size of it. What i want to know is a outdoor plant can be managed to not over grow on the cardboard box doing the early flowering with Rating: 5

[highlexster]

i forgot to mention plant has 14 weeks old and it passed for a yellowish on the leaves and early-flowering which delayed her growing state for about few weeks

[Dexter007]

is fine to grow a outdoor plant indoor? This is my first time that I've been attempting to grow an cannabis plant, at the very begin of it I had no acknowledge at all so that's why i choose the wrong plant for my environment. Right now what i doing is growing this outdoor plant inside of a cardboard box which i think is a good setup for an indoor plant due at size of it. What i want to know is a outdoor plant can be managed to not over grow on the cardboard box doing the early flowering with 12hr cycles? :rasta::rastasmoke::thumbsup:

My grow box specification:
2x lights cfl 100watts 2800 lumens each
cardboard box 24x27x24 inside part wrap in aluminum foil
2x cpu fans
room humidity 40% up to 60
temperature 76F up 80F

P.s. Sorry about my spell mistakes guys.

are you sure that you have right info bout the bulbs?
i mean that like 100w=2800l
so 200w total gives you 5600lumens?

cos i was using 20w cfl bulb and the spec was
20w=100w 1350lumens 5600k
sry if im wrong but it just dont seem right 2 me...:wtf:

[highlexster]

are you sure that you have right info bout the bulbs?
i mean that like 100w=2800l
so 200w total gives you 5600lumens?

cos i was using 20w cfl bulb and the spec was
20w=100w 1350lumens 5600k
sry if im wrong but it just dont seem right 2 me...:wtf:

no, no, no, I'm sorry dude i just got that wrong, each light gives me 27-watts (100w) 1,750 lumens - 3500 lumens total

if you want here is the specs from the place where i bought them...EcoSmart 27-Watt (100W) Daylight CFL Light Bulb (2-Pack) - ES5M827250K at The Home Depot

[Dexter007]

no, no, no, I'm sorry dude i just got that wrong, each light gives me 27-watts (100w) 1,750 lumens - 3500 lumens total

if you want here is the specs from the place where i bought them...EcoSmart 27-Watt (100W) Daylight CFL Light Bulb (2-Pack) - ES5M827250K at The Home Depot

allrigt:thumbsup:
k you should add another 2 bulbs at least..
so the light output would be 7000lumens total..
DONT FORGET you dont have no reflector and walls are coverered with tinfoil(NOT A GOOD IDEA)
theres probaly around 30%lumens going lost(PROBALY)
you should been using flat white paint,its nearly as good as mylar..
and you should get some cheap crappy lamp sheds and paint them white.so you gonna reflect at least some of the lumens down(top of the plant)instead up..

(sry if i made that reply so complicated but im STONE right now:stoned: )

[highlexster]

thanks man so do you think if i take the aluminum foil out and then paint the inside part in flat white and add 2 more lights will give her a boost? and how far i should put the light from the top of the plant? I'm just a little bit concerned about adding 2 more lights will increase the box temperature...

im gonna post another pic gives a better look of my growing box

[Dexter007]

thanks man so do you think if i take the aluminum foil out and then paint the inside part in flat white and add 2 more lights will give her a boost? and how far i should put the light from the top of the plant? I'm just a little bit concerned about adding 2 more lights will increase the box temperature...

im gonna post another pic gives a better look of my growing box

it def will... ill copy paste you tht..now make some readibg


Although I'm still kind of a new poster, I keep seeing a lot of the same comments--many of which are answered an Dr. Khronik's excellent El Cheapo Guide to Lighting. But there are a few things I'd like to add in regard to watts, lumens, cfl, hps, and efficiency and how much light you need. Maybe this should be stickied?

Watts have nothing to do with light or growth. Watts measure how much power a light fixture uses to produce light. You can tell how efficient a light bulb is by looking at watts. A 23 watt CFL produces as much light as a 100 watt incandescent...even though the incandescent has more watts, it's useless. See what I mean?

What you care about is light...more specifically, light energy. That's what plants use during photosynthesis/growth. Light is measured in lumens. In my experience and reading, lumen amounts per sq. ft./sq. m. look like this

2000 lumens sq. ft./21500 lumens sq. m. = Absolute minimum for growth. You won't get much from this, especially after the plant has grown a bit. Not really enough to flower well.

3000 lumens sq. ft./32250 lumens sq. m. = Pretty Good growth. Enough light for the entire light cycle, although your yields may be lower.
4000 lumens sq. ft./43000 lumens sq. m. = Very good growth. Once you pass around 3500, growth rate and ability goes up fast.

Over 5000 lumens sq. ft./53750 lumens sq. m. = Optimal growth. Dense growth in all stages.

Keep in mind that using reflectors, using mylar or having flat white walls, and keeping your lights close to your plants keep you from wasting lumens. It's not just about having light, it's about getting the light to your plants. IMO, people ofter overbuy lights. This creates more light, but the light isn't always hitting the plants. And that creates more heat and ventilation issues, which causes stress problems.

That's why it's still impossible to tell anything about growth or yield based on just lumens. A guy that has an HPS that is too far away from plants that have no walls near them and no ventilation may get poorer results than a grower with CFLs that uses reflectors and has a couple of lights under the canopy in a well-ventilated spot.

HPS lights are often said to generate more heat than CFLs. That's not really true...it's just that they are more efficient at producing light, and there's a smaller surface area on the bulb itself for the resulting heat to dissipate. That means more ventilation. But the higher amount of lumens per watt means you use less power and get greater light penetration through your canopy. Still, I'm a believer that well used CFL's can give you great grows with less ventilation and heat issues. If you're in a small to very small area (less than 4 sq. ft./.25 sq. m.), I'd consider the advantages of CFLs in that way.

But HPS is more efficient. A typical 250 watt HPS bulb/unit will produce about 27,000 lumens. I've seen people use a 250w in a 3' x 3' room and get good results. That's 9 sq. ft. which = 3000 lumens a sq. ft. (Really, a 250w HPS is better in a smaller area.) to give you an idea of the difference in efficiency of CFL vs. HPS, think of this.

23w CFL = 1600 lumens = 69.6 lumens/watt
30w CFL = 2000 lumens = 66.7 lumens/watt
40w CFL = 2600 lumens = 66.3 lumens/watt

compared to

150w HPS = 14000 lumens = 93.3 lumens/watt
250w HPS = 28000 lumens = 112 lumens/watt
400w HPS = 50000 lumens = 125 lumens/watt
600w HPS = 90000 lumens = 150 lumens/watt

So you can see that HPS is more efficient than CFL...and as you get into bigger HPS bulbs, it becomes a lot more efficient. There's also fewer hassles with multiple cords and saved money on your energy bill. If you've got a big area and/or you can deal with the heat and ventilation, HPS is the way to go in flowering. Still, I'm a believer in small HPS lights and combo HPS/CFL grows...if you've got a 2' x 2' room, you can use a 150w HPS and 4 23w CFLs from Wal-Mart and get a terrific grow with very few heat issues.

and dont forget
2700k for flowering
5600k for vegging,..
let me know when more questions.:thumbsup:

[highlexster]

yeah I already thought about get an HPS light and i looked up i found 150w 14000 lumens setup but i decided to get it on flowering stage. So what i did a add 2 more lights with the reflectors which gives me now 7000 lumens :thumbsup:. i gonna keep my eyes open on temperature Gage now and then tomorrow I'll do the paint job. Thanks for u thoughts Dexter007

[Dexter007]

np at all...trust me if you keep reading threads here and tryng da help when you can you allways learn something new:jointsmile: so keep us updated and add pictures time to time cos i gonna keep my eyes on your thread.
so good luck with your grow:thumbsup:
:jointsmile:

[highlexster]

oh yeah I definitely will. Thanks for ur advices and i don't know how the world would be without forums like this one, every info is a click away! :thumbsup: