IT'S OFFICIAL!!! I-1135

[jamessr]

Okay, are you going to sign the petition or not, James? Stop making things so complicated. We need to work on this one step at a time. Wisconsin is fighting their governor right now, and people are watching closely. They will also be watching the feds really closing when we get this passed. Let's quit bitching and quoting law and spend some of that energy to get this on the ballot and get is passed. Join us, or get out of the way, cuz we are going for broke (most of us already are, lol). This is as good a place to start as any, and we have the backing and we are gonna do it. We'll fight the feds when we are done.

Well time, I must say this: I will never follow anyone blowing a flute to run me over the cliff. Nor no I feel you should either.. cause once over that cliff, there ain't no coming back to fight anyone..

We will leave another 50+ yrs for our kids to figure it out.. cause by this time it will be way to late...

Like I said, I will sign when I am given clarity of are we balloting an HERB OR A SCHEDULE 1 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE? It makes a big difference to me and it should to you also... DON'T WALK AROUND IN LIFE BLINDED BY WHAT THEY TELL YOU... 99.99% OF THE TIME, THEY ARE FULL OF SHIT !!

SO AGAIN, ARE WE SIGNING A PETITION TO REPEAL AN HERB OR A SCHEDULE 1 CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE...

You should really speak with a lawyer about this... I think the answer will shock you.. remember to mention the AG opinion in the 2009 rescheduling petitions. THAT THE AG ADMITTED CANNABIS IS AN HERB WHICH IS NOT THE TYPE OF SUBSTANCES SOLD IN A PHARMACY.

REMEMBER 1 THING, IF YOU REPEAL AN HERB... WE ARE ALL FUCKED !!!!

[time4me]

James, what SW is doing has nothing to do with what you are talking about. I-1135 removes criminal penalties for adults for possessing, growing and using cannabis. It's not about the status of the plant with the BoP, it's about changing the laws regarding the illegality of the plant.
You overthink things quite often, and that muddles things up. There is nothing in the inititiative about which you write, and since the BoP made that distinction they will have no case for objection to the new law now, will they?
KISS, something I learned many years ago in business....Keep It Simple Stupid
Stop trying to make it something that it's not, or something more than it is.
It is a simple initiative.
Please try to stay on topic on my thread from now on. Thanks. Puff, puff, pass

[killerweed420]

It is a very easy intiative to understand as time has stated. It just removes the word cannabis from every law statute in the state. We'll have that for 2 years and then the governor and the legislature will go back to butchering the intiative.

[gypski]

No if the people stand overlooking them. I don't think they'd dare try to back step on the people again. Its time their eyes were opened to the true reality of it all. :thumbsup:

It is a very easy intiative to understand as time has stated. It just removes the word cannabis from every law statute in the state. We'll have that for 2 years and then the governor and the legislature will go back to butchering the intiative.

[time4me]

No if the people stand overlooking them. I don't think they'd dare try to back step on the people again. Its time their eyes were opened to the true reality of it all. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:
:hippy:

[ionmagic]

hi, everyone.....Sensible Washington is an INITIATIVE of the people...in WA, an "initiative of the people" is the way we, the people, have of imposing our desires into our otherwise unresponsive state government. The initiative process is ONE way we have of telling our public servants what we want; and it allows that we have the power to TAKE it if they don't step up.

Systems...every system....is all about give and take and balance among the many parts, but unless we are all (and each) focused on peace, with an intent to achieve harmony among ALL the interest holders....to create a win-win rather than a win-lose scenario, it's all just another form of aggression and war-making. The intiative is about stopping the violence against us, and freeing the plant...about restoring balance.

We, the people, want cannabis freed, and we want restored our freedom of choice to use it, or not. We want the law enforcement and courts systems to back the f off and quit arresting us. We want the right to live our lives, and manage our health and well being, free of government control and opposition. We want the VIOLENCE to stop. We want the plant free.

HOW our gov reacts to the initiative is UNKNOWN. I don't give a crap what they come up with for "after" we pass the inititiative....whether they call it an herb, or a controlled substance...the truth is: it's a PLANT!...and from the moment the initiative is passed, WE, the people, are in the driver's seat.

FREE THE PLANT ....and let's move forward from that place of restoration.

james, i love you dude, I really do, but something about how you express yourself feels so very harsh and angry, and it seems like you look for trouble where there is none, and it seems you keep fishing in still waters for old boots or other unknown and disappointing dangers so that things are always mucked up; and, of course, I would like you to be free of that fear (that's what it is you express...fear)....to become the sovereign you are meant to be, free of the past, confident and assured, safe and protected, free to stand tall and live your life. But, if you choose conflict, well then, that's what you'll experience, and seem to want to spread, so you'll just have to accept that some people are going to avoid or dismiss you, just to avoid that unnecessary energy. Dude, focus on love.

time, i love you, too.....sincerely, and you are a dear friend and you ROCK....you're sick (aren't we all??) and keep coming so close to dying..... and through it all, you stand firm and strong in your convictions: a clear speaking crone doing her part to carry the torch FORWARD for the future. You're awesome!

I will sign the petition again, and again, I will urge others to do so...so that the plant's freedom is restored. Whatever happens from the gov after the initiative passes, and when the chips start falling into place, it will mean ONE thing: we, the people, have spoken, and our government better shape up and LISTEN.

They'll listen. If they don't, then we have a much bigger battle that demand our attention then being afraid of being busted.

puff, puff, pass.....ah, blueberry! puff, puff, pass....ah, Bob Marley!

I've missed you guys....
ion:hippy:

[jamessr]

hi, everyone.....Sensible Washington is an INITIATIVE of the people...in WA, an "initiative of the people" is the way we, the people, have of imposing our desires into our otherwise unresponsive state government. The initiative process is ONE way we have of telling our public servants what we want; and it allows that we have the power to TAKE it if they don't step up.

Systems...every system....is all about give and take and balance among the many parts, but unless we are all (and each) focused on peace, with an intent to achieve harmony among ALL the interest holders....to create a win-win rather than a win-lose scenario, it's all just another form of aggression and war-making. The intiative is about stopping the violence against us, and freeing the plant...about restoring balance.

We, the people, want cannabis freed, and we want restored our freedom of choice to use it, or not. We want the law enforcement and courts systems to back the f off and quit arresting us. We want the right to live our lives, and manage our health and well being, free of government control and opposition. We want the VIOLENCE to stop. We want the plant free.

HOW our gov reacts to the initiative is UNKNOWN. I don't give a crap what they come up with for "after" we pass the inititiative....whether they call it an herb, or a controlled substance...the truth is: it's a PLANT!...and from the moment the initiative is passed, WE, the people, are in the driver's seat.

FREE THE PLANT ....and let's move forward from that place of restoration.

james, i love you dude, I really do, but something about how you express yourself feels so very harsh and angry, and it seems like you look for trouble where there is none, and it seems you keep fishing in still waters for old boots or other unknown and disappointing dangers so that things are always mucked up; and, of course, I would like you to be free of that fear (that's what it is you express...fear)....to become the sovereign you are meant to be, free of the past, confident and assured, safe and protected, free to stand tall and live your life. But, if you choose conflict, well then, that's what you'll experience, and seem to want to spread, so you'll just have to accept that some people are going to avoid or dismiss you, just to avoid that unnecessary energy. Dude, focus on love.

time, i love you, too.....sincerely, and you are a dear friend and you ROCK....you're sick (aren't we all??) and keep coming so close to dying..... and through it all, you stand firm and strong in your convictions: a clear speaking crone doing her part to carry the torch FORWARD for the future. You're awesome!

I will sign the petition again, and again, I will urge others to do so...so that the plant's freedom is restored. Whatever happens from the gov after the initiative passes, and when the chips start falling into place, it will mean ONE thing: we, the people, have spoken, and our government better shape up and LISTEN.

They'll listen. If they don't, then we have a much bigger battle that demand our attention then being afraid of being busted.

puff, puff, pass.....ah, blueberry! puff, puff, pass....ah, Bob Marley!

I've missed you guys....
ion:hippy:

Thank you my dear for pointing out I am in the middle of a war zone in defense of our rights.. and as such am a bit bitter as we all are from our experiences of prohibition..

I just manifest it in an unorthodox way.. believe you me though, our political climate understands exactly what I am doing...even tough our community here does not...

Who gets busted for 9.59 grams with a valid authorization and the system uses a non-authorized licensed person to extinguish a patients rights... is this our laws we voted in?? Sorry, wrong !! we voted in that ONLY Dr. LICENSED in WA. may authorize it's use... since when did a non-licensed person enter our mmj laws??

So dealing with the fallout after this initiative is passed... makes me shake my head in disbelief...

Stop and think of the repercussions before we jump this time... I don't want to die without this plant freed for the use of our future children...

Sorry my words are harsh and not very palatable....HONESTLY !!

p.s. I LOVE YOU ALSO, PLEASE GIVE ME A CHANCE TO PROVE MY THEORY IS CORRECT BEFORE CONDEMNING ME.

[jamessr]

James, what SW is doing has nothing to do with what you are talking about. I-1135 removes criminal penalties for adults for possessing, growing and using cannabis. It's not about the status of the plant with the BoP, it's about changing the laws regarding the illegality of the plant.
You overthink things quite often, and that muddles things up. There is nothing in the inititiative about which you write, and since the BoP made that distinction they will have no case for objection to the new law now, will they?
KISS, something I learned many years ago in business....Keep It Simple Stupid
Stop trying to make it something that it's not, or something more than it is.
It is a simple initiative.
Please try to stay on topic on my thread from now on. Thanks. Puff, puff, pass

My dear I do understand what your saying about removing the state authority to prosecute us for cannabis use... but, if the prosecuting authority already has acknowledged it is not the type of substance which is illegal i.e. an HERB...in which that authority can be used against any citizen.

If the idea in passing this initiative is to remove the states authority to prosecute, that constitutional officer has already admitted he has no authority to arrest anyone already..

So this initiative does what then ?? I am confused completely here???

What in legal effect to us citizens is this initiative now gives them a 2nd chance to fix their mistake in this admission and come back and make a new law which absolutely denies us all use forever more...

I myself like the HERB interpretation given by the highest authorized prosecuting authority of the state... the plant is free.. leo is the issue under the drug task force contracts...they keep us restrained...

HOPE YOU SUCCEED IN WHAT EVER IT IS YOUR HEART DESIRES.

love ya,

James Sr.

[ionmagic]

" ,,,our political climate understands exactly what I am doing ..."

stop it.
your way sucks.

love,
ion

[time4me]

Good to see you here Ion. It has been too long.
I have been sick, but still going. Some days are tougher than others, but I figure as long as I'm still alive, I've work to do, so this is it for now.
Free the Plant
YES on I-1135!