hahah ur an idiot... no need for 5000 watts in veg......hahahaha u must have a hugggge eletric bill if thats jus ur veg

i follow my limits 12 flower 12 veg...i used to have 1 1000w mh for my veg but what u get from that is rly tall plants, the light makes them shoot up. i stronly suggest switching to t5. i switched and got the 8 bulb double spectrum and my plants went from tall to fat bushes...along with pruning it right...if u got the dough grab a few of those 8 bulb t5s then use the 5000 watt for flower......ull have great results