Is this n deficiency or just need feeding ?? NEED YOUR HELP PLZ!!!

[budbudding]

You use them but do so seperately, adding one fert with water, then the other mixed with water. You don't want to mix calcium and phosphorus together because the cal and P will bind together and become useless. Put them in the soil but do so seperately, or I suppose you can mix in the same water but don't mix them together without water. Don't mix them in water and them set it aside as the longer the calcium and P are together, the greater chance they will mix and become useless.

Cheers mate you've been a great help ! . I'll keep posted on thee out come .
thanx again

[MEDEDCANNABIS]

Is my temps and my rh to high yes/no??
I watered with plain water ph 7.8 run off 6.7 is this ok ??
I work in ml's and ltr's !
I believe a table spoon is 10ml and Tspoon 5mil ??
My plagron alga bloom says 4ml per ltr , There is 4.5 ltrs per gallon correct? so this would mean i need almost 2 table spoons per gallon ? does this not seem high???
What other nutes am i needing in flower , I have canna pk 13/14 to use a week be four harvest , Is this correct?, or anything that is vital in flowering i need to know ???

6.7 is ok. get a syringe and see what a ml looks like, its basically a few drops is equal. high nutrient feeds can overload most plants so be careful and go easy. increase as needed. im still a believer in temps no more than 78f. 13/14 is high nutes feed and you still need some n in flower.

[Rusty Trichome]

I don't get it.

Gee...that's no surprise. Math was my major, so it's no surprise that perhaps you should look-up what a datum is...
But in a nutshell...
Starting at point "A", you want to measure 100 feet. First, use a 100ft tape measure, and mark the spot.
Next, get a ruler and mark-off 100 feet. They will not be the same. The smaller measuring devise will provide a varriable with every (foot of) measurement, while the larger (or longer) tool will be off at a maximum of once.

Why would anyone have the habit of doing heaping measurements 3 times a week? "If mixing larger batches of nutrients, then this is not a concern."
Huh? Why wouldn't this be a concern? Don't you think it's just as easy to over-feed with large batches of nutes as with small ones?

Not at all...If you are mixing for one or two plants, and only mix 1/2 gallon batches at a time, it's easier to miss the mark, than when mixing 5 gallon batches. In other words...one drop is a major quantity when using 1/3 tsp measurements. Conversely, one or two drops is negligible when measuring a few teaspoons or a couple of tablespoons.

Isn't the important thing actually the ratio of nutes to water that's the issue? Why do you write of using 1 tsp per gallon, saying it can be broken up as 1/3 tsp per gallon? Don't you end up giving about 3 times the normal amount of water?

No. We were talking about feeding the plant with every watering versus following the weekly feeding ammounts 3 times a week. You do that, you'll kill the plants. The mistake I think you might be making, is that when feeding with every watering, you are adding the same ammount of liquids as if you were giving nutes once a week and watering inbetween. If you don't lower the quantity of nutrients per application, you'll kill the plants.

If you're using 1/3 strength nutes over time, shouldn't a grower use 1/3 the water, to maintain the right ratio? Otherwise you give too much water, correct? And how is it that you arrive at such a bizarre example?
(The starter of this thread is using liters, by the way).

Because it makes folks like you go "huh...?". The numbers were unimportant in my example, yet the ratio was correct for the example I gave. Do some math and figure it out before you go looking like a fool trying to correct ANYONE. And...by the way...ratio's don't give a shit if you're using litres or quarts or teaspoons.

Rusty, you also wrote several days ago that someone should smell the bottoms of their pots to detect rootrot. Do you really think this is going to work?

Yup. As I'm not perfect...I've done it myself. If your soil smells "off" mold and/or rot are setting in. During the more humid days of summer, you can smell it when you open your growroom door.
Getting old watching you throw darts while having no clue how to play this flaming game. Since you have no personal experience, perhaps your opinions should be phrased in the form of questions, because you definatelly have no answers.

Chances are all they're going to smell is wet potting soil, if anything at all. Some people here say you're the guy to listen to, but I think many of the things you write do not make any sense.

Again...I'm not surprised. All you want to do is try and fight and find fault. But perhaps you should try and understand the concept(s) before trying to slam something you don't understand. Need calrification...? Just ask. But pretending you know better is folly.

I think you come here just to get your ego stroked. Whether you're right or wrong seems to be irrelevant to you. I've been reading this forum for about 8 years now and it's obvious that you're here just to get stroked.

Gee...I was just thinking the same thing about you...but likely I'll be here helping other med patients, while you're still learning how to split a weekly dosage into 3 times a week feedings. Stick with it, you might just get a clue...

Stinkyattic did the same thing but at least stinkyattic had a greater tendency to be right. But even when she was wrong, she would dig in her heels and fight back if anyone tried to correct her.

Sorry. I'm not here to fight with someone totally unprepared for the challenge. Come back when you have something interesting to add, or go get stinkyattic (she doesn't capitalize her 'S') to challenge for you. At least she has a solid knowledge base to work from. :jointsmile:

[bigsby]

Logic is a bitch, eh? We really do need to pour $$ into math and science education in the US.

You may not like the style b/c RT doesn't pull any punches but by my reading he was correct on every point...

[IntrepidSavage]

For suuuurrre!!! i was reading polishpollack's post like "whhhaaa??" The consequences of measurement errors are obviously larger when smaller quantities are involved - duh. it was a simple example. Poor 'ol US school system

Even if u believe differently - jeez - to attack senior members, the upper echelon of the cannabis forum microcosm lol..

Plants look pretty good to me nice grow :thumbsup:

[budbudding]

[quote=IntrepidSavage]For suuuurrre!!! i was reading polishpollack's post like "whhhaaa??" The consequences of measurement errors are obviously larger when smaller quantities are involved - duh. it was a simple example. Poor 'ol US school system

Even if u believe differently - jeez - to attack senior members, the upper echelon of the cannabis forum microcosm lol..

Plants look pretty good to me nice grow :thumbsup:

Thanx savage

I was told today that they look to streched to get a nice bit of bud ,. Now i dnt know if i have wasted my time ??? :/

[polishpollack]

I guess what gets me is that many times I read your diagnosis to a problem or explanation, and shake my head. You say that I have no personal experience but why do you draw this conclusion? You know nothing about me. Or I guess what you're trying to say is that you always think I'm wrong. If that's the case, then I have a question for you.

Why do you focus so much on pH and rootbound/rootrot when the starter of the thread hasn't given any mention that could indicate these conditions might exist? . Your explanation for every spot, every bent leaf, is usually one or more of those three things.

Your ruler analogy is correct, to a point. The accuracy is dependent mostly on how well the measuring device is used. (But I see what you're saying).
Datum is singular for data.
"Especially if one has a habit of doing heaping measurements 3 times a week rather than one level measurement, once a week."
I understand the percentages of smaller amounts, but I thought the above statement was strange. The starter of this thread stated he was only using Plagron soil, without adding ferts. There was no habit developed yet.
"If you don't lower the quantity of nutrients per application, you'll kill the plants."
My text says water, not nutes - 3 times the normal amount of water given three times a week doesn't strike me as smart. But I'm sure you'll just say that's another indication as to how stupid I am.
"All you want to do is try and fight and find fault."
Not true. This is the first time I've said anything of this nature. You have told others in the past that they're just guessing, but you are the greatest guesser here, in my opinion. Rusty has told people in these forums that there is no difference between organic and sythetic (chemical) fertilizer. This is not accurate. Organics are heavily based on carbon. Sythetics are made in a lab, low in carbon, and designed for rapid utilization by a cellular system. Organic ferts take longer to be utilized and require the presence of bacteria (in most cases) to break the fert down to a molecular level that can be absorbed by a plant. What people don't understand is anyone attacking a senior member. Period. I'm sorry but RT doesn't gain my respect. Not like he does from the rest of you anyway. I have yet to be impressed by RT and his "datum."
"likely I'll be here helping other med patients"
You can have it, but most aren't med patients.

From budbudding - "the upper echelon of the cannabis forum microcosm"
No, from the sewer....

[Rusty Trichome]

Unless I'm mistaken...You were the one bringing-up another post regarding a rootbound issue. Looking through my responses in this thread, you have your head up your ass.

Here and now, we were discussing feeding with every watering versus a weekly feeding, and I often offer the reader extra little tidbits (either directly or indirectly) associated with the topic. Overwatering and underwatering will affect your proper feeding on such an enviornmentally varriable schedule. A weekly feeding balances-out the high's and low's, and your watering will be flexible between the feedings. Only when need be.

But I do now have a beef with you and your info. For starters, all I've seen is you come in here and offer bogus advise about the temps, (of which I have extensive experience from living in the desert...you ought to read my thread on the subject sometime...) you bring-up other posts and accuse me of misdiagnosing or misleading or whatever, you slam stinkyattic (a moderator) who hasn't been here in a year, and for no factual reason, (perhaps it's just your twisted take on those with more experience and credibility than you...? :wtf: ) and you slam my advise as unreliable and offer no facts to back your accusations.

Did I get any of that wrong...? Because upon your next infraction, (flaming and trolling rules apply in these forums) I'll just report all this and let the mods figure it out. :thumbsup:

[budbudding]

Unless I'm mistaken...You were the one bringing-up another post regarding a rootbound issue. Looking through my responses in this thread, you have your head up your ass.

Here and now, we were discussing feeding with every watering versus a weekly feeding, and I often offer the reader extra little tidbits (either directly or indirectly) associated with the topic. Overwatering and underwatering will affect your proper feeding on such an enviornmentally varriable schedule. A weekly feeding balances-out the high's and low's, and your watering will be flexible between the feedings. Only when need be.

But I do now have a beef with you and your info. For starters, all I've seen is you come in here and offer bogus advise about the temps, (of which I have extensive experience from living in the desert...you ought to read my thread on the subject sometime...) you bring-up other posts and accuse me of misdiagnosing or misleading or whatever, you slam stinkyattic (a moderator) who hasn't been here in a year, and for no factual reason, (perhaps it's just your twisted take on those with more experience and credibility than you...? :wtf: ) and you slam my advise as unreliable and offer no facts to back your accusations.

Did I get any of that wrong...? Because upon your next infraction, (flaming and trolling rules apply in these forums) I'll just report all this and let the mods figure it out. :thumbsup:

Rusty may you awnser this question plz buddy?

I am growing jack herer and i have been vegging for 3 1/2 weeks , . I started them on flower yesterday ,.

The question is that they were 23 inches when i started flower and now their 27 inches , thats 4 inches in 48hrs, will they continue to grow at that rate? , if so how long for ?

[bigsby]

Expect them to grow like that for 3 - 5 weeks strain dependent, although it will slow over that period. I've never grown jack but it's definitely on my list!