Is this n deficiency or just need feeding ?? NEED YOUR HELP PLZ!!!

[budbudding]

your ph seems ok, your temps are still high. jack herer is notorious for difficulty, try something like northern lights for ease of grow. to me it seems your not watering enough, it looks dry from your pics. with that root mass you should be watering every 2-3 days especially at your temps. humidity is also high, do you have enough ventilation? flowering when issues are corrected wouldnt be a bad idea. your almost ready for nutes and cal/mag and or molasses. just go easy dont use high nutrient products.

High mate

Yes i dont think that i have a problem with ventilation , Well i hope i havnt, i have fresh air in take and a exhust , so hope thats fine? i think it throw's in as much as it does out !
Sorry but what is cal/mag ? and molasses? i have no idea!

[Rusty Trichome]

Most of the info you've been given is solid, with the exception of those that are overly concerned with your 83 degree temperatures. During the summer I'm lucky if my night-time temps dip that low. Try and keep the day/night (high/low) temps within 15-20 degrees if possible. The tighter the range, the better. (without getting all anal about it)

Can't say I'm a big fan of feeding with every watering, but if it works for ya go for it. Some may understand this, some may go "huh...?"...but if a quantitative datum of 1 (level) tsp per gallon per week is optimal, then cutting it down to 3 feedings at 1/3 tsp per gallon is likely straying from that optimal 'datum'. Especially if one has a habit of doing heaping measurements 3 times a week rather than one level measurement, once a week. (super-easy over feed) If mixing larger batches of nutrients, then this is not a concern. But for smaller grows, it can be a big problem. I guess what I'm getting at, is...the smaller the batch, the more careful and consistent you need to be.

Just something to keep in mind as you're developing your schedule, but I'm a big fan of the KISS principles.

CalMag Plus and molasses are sources of iron, calcium and magnesium. Plants need calcium for cell wall development and growth, especially later in maturity. Personally, I prefer unsulfered molasses.

[polishpollack]

I don't get it. Why would anyone have the habit of doing heaping measurements 3 times a week? "If mixing larger batches of nutrients, then this is not a concern."
Huh? Why wouldn't this be a concern? Don't you think it's just as easy to over-feed with large batches of nutes as with small ones? Isn't the important thing actually the ratio of nutes to water that's the issue? Why do you write of using 1 tsp per gallon, saying it can be broken up as 1/3 tsp per gallon? Don't you end up giving about 3 times the normal amount of water? If you're using 1/3 strength nutes over time, shouldn't a grower use 1/3 the water, to maintain the right ratio? Otherwise you give too much water, correct? And how is it that you arrive at such a bizarre example?
(The starter of this thread is using liters, by the way).

Rusty, you also wrote several days ago that someone should smell the bottoms of their pots to detect rootrot. Do you really think this is going to work? Chances are all they're going to smell is wet potting soil, if anything at all. Some people here say you're the guy to listen to, but I think many of the things you write do not make any sense. I think you come here just to get your ego stroked. Whether you're right or wrong seems to be irrelevant to you. I've been reading this forum for about 8 years now and it's obvious that you're here just to get stroked. Stinkyattic did the same thing but at least stinkyattic had a greater tendency to be right. But even when she was wrong, she would dig in her heels and fight back if anyone tried to correct her.

[budbudding]

Is my temps and my rh to high yes/no??
I watered with plain water ph 7.8 run off 6.7 is this ok ??
I work in ml's and ltr's !
I believe a table spoon is 10ml and Tspoon 5mil ??
My plagron alga bloom says 4ml per ltr , There is 4.5 ltrs per gallon correct? so this would mean i need almost 2 table spoons per gallon ? does this not seem high???
What other nutes am i needing in flower , I have canna pk 13/14 to use a week be four harvest , Is this correct?, or anything that is vital in flowering i need to know ???

[budbudding]

Am a little worried im gonna run out of space to grow these plants!! ,They gerw 5 inches in the 12 hours of night!! , :¬O ,

I have noticed tho that there are a few yellow dots showing on some leave's , maybe caused by me misting?? im going to stop that now ! Gonna keep an eye on it just to see if any more appear , if they do what could this be ??, i cant spot any mites ! Also the sides of the leaves seem to stay pointing slightly up, about 45 degree's , any idea what could be causeing this?

Here's a couple of snaps , do they look good ?

[polishpollack]

83 can be a bit high for an indoor grow, that doesn't have much airflow.

pH is fine.

Tablespoon is 15 mls.

3.9 liters per gallon.

For measuring mls you can get a syringe from your local chemist/drug store/whatever you call it in England/UK nations. Or you can try ml measuring devices intended for uses in cooking/chemistry, etc.

Don't know about using pk a week before harvest. This doesn't sound right. I'm guessing it's only a phosphorus/potassium fert. I'm thinking that you use this for the entire flower/bloom cycle, but you might want to throw in some nitrogen fert, to keep the plants green during flowering. CANNA - THE SOLUTION FOR GROWTH AND BLOOM

Yellow dots - if there are no bugs in your grow space, then this could be magnesium deficiency, as this usually shows up like golden-yellow spotting on the upper side of the leaves. If Canna doesn't say anything about having mg (magnesium) in it, then you probably need to add some. A cal/mag product will do nicely.

Plants look pretty good, but will outgrow such a small space. Either move some or you'll have to trim them back quite a bit. People put alot of plants into a small area apparently forgetting that the plants will grow.

[budbudding]

83 can be a bit high for an indoor grow, that doesn't have much airflow.

pH is fine.

Tablespoon is 15 mls.

3.9 liters per gallon.

For measuring mls you can get a syringe from your local chemist/drug store/whatever you call it in England/UK nations. Or you can try ml measuring devices intended for uses in cooking/chemistry, etc.

Don't know about using pk a week before harvest. This doesn't sound right. I'm guessing it's only a phosphorus/potassium fert. I'm thinking that you use this for the entire flower/bloom cycle, but you might want to throw in some nitrogen fert, to keep the plants green during flowering. CANNA - THE SOLUTION FOR GROWTH AND BLOOM

Yellow dots - if there are no bugs in your grow space, then this could be magnesium deficiency, as this usually shows up like golden-yellow spotting on the upper side of the leaves. If Canna doesn't say anything about having mg (magnesium) in it, then you probably need to add some. A cal/mag product will do nicely.

Plants look pretty good, but will outgrow such a small space. Either move some or you'll have to trim them back quite a bit. People put alot of plants into a small area apparently forgetting that the plants will grow.

Your so right mate thanks , magnesium deficiency it defo is , Should i use that in the next feed with cal? , i will be using plagrom alga bloom at the same time will this be ok ,. But the next time they will be feed will be monday ! Do you think it will be ok to wait until then ?

And i have been using a ml syringe

[polishpollack]

Why do you plan on using two different bloom ferts? One or the other but not both. Get a cal/mag product and follow the directions on the container, giving a dose soon. I wouldn't wait until Monday. Wait a couple weeks and give another dose, and that should be good until they're done. Don't mix the cal/mag with your other fert however. mix each with their own waters to avoid the calcium and phosphorus from binding to each other. Only get the cal mag if the alga doesn't have calcium and mg in it. Pick the bloom fert that has more stuff in it. Canna might be easily absorbed but it may not have everything plants need. Let them grow another ten inches, then tranplant to larger containers, using same soil.

[budbudding]

Why do you plan on using two different bloom ferts? One or the other but not both. Get a cal/mag product and follow the directions on the container, giving a dose soon. I wouldn't wait until Monday. Wait a couple weeks and give another dose, and that should be good until they're done. Don't mix the cal/mag with your other fert however. mix each with their own waters to avoid the calcium and phosphorus from binding to each other. Only get the cal mag if the alga doesn't have calcium and mg in it. Pick the bloom fert that has more stuff in it. Canna might be easily absorbed but it may not have everything plants need. Let them grow another ten inches, then tranplant to larger containers, using same soil.

Plagron Alga-Bloom
Alga Bloom is an organic and easy to use nutrient for the bloom phase. Because Plants have different needs during the bloom phase, they need a specially adapted food with a different NPK ratio. Alga Bloom promotes improved root development and a strong, rich flowering of the plant. Plagron Alga-bloom contains: 13% phosphor, 14% potash, 1.5% nitrogen, trace elements, vitamins, enzymes, growth hormones, ferments and more than 20 types of amino acids.
Usage: Dilute 4 ml with 1 litre of water. Water the plants with this dilution once a week. A 1 litre bottle

No cal/mag , should i still avoid using together??

[polishpollack]

You use them but do so seperately, adding one fert with water, then the other mixed with water. You don't want to mix calcium and phosphorus together because the cal and P will bind together and become useless. Put them in the soil but do so seperately, or I suppose you can mix in the same water but don't mix them together without water. Don't mix them in water and them set it aside as the longer the calcium and P are together, the greater chance they will mix and become useless.