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    ?? about Vitamins

    I've been doing a bunch of reading online and in forums and on this one in particular about the dilution method for helping with a DA. Clearly B 12 or B complex is the way to go from what im seeing everywhere..but my ?? is if I dont have that around..would it be possible to substitute that for a daily vitamin, like the ones u take one a day of? I ask because it has all the B vitamins that r in the B complex so Im jw if I took a few more would it do the same thing? HELP..i have to take take a test in a few hours so trying to make some gametime decisions lol
    Casanova23 Reviewed by Casanova23 on . ?? about Vitamins I've been doing a bunch of reading online and in forums and on this one in particular about the dilution method for helping with a DA. Clearly B 12 or B complex is the way to go from what im seeing everywhere..but my ?? is if I dont have that around..would it be possible to substitute that for a daily vitamin, like the ones u take one a day of? I ask because it has all the B vitamins that r in the B complex so Im jw if I took a few more would it do the same thing? HELP..i have to take take a Rating: 5

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    ?? about Vitamins

    Quote Originally Posted by Casanova23
    I've been doing a bunch of reading online and in forums and on this one in particular about the dilution method for helping with a DA. Clearly B 12 or B complex is the way to go from what im seeing everywhere..but my ?? is if I dont have that around..would it be possible to substitute that for a daily vitamin, like the ones u take one a day of? I ask because it has all the B vitamins that r in the B complex so Im jw if I took a few more would it do the same thing? HELP..i have to take take a test in a few hours so trying to make some gametime decisions lol
    Yes, the B complex will work fine and the actual vitamin that your looking for is B2, not B12

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    Thanx for the reply sir and my fault for the mix up with that B2..so you're saying it is okay to use a multivitamin instead of the B2 or B complex...just trying to get some clarity. Cuz it appears that u were just agreeing with what I was saying about the B vitamins.. The multivitamin i have has all types of vitamins in it.

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    Keep in mind that in recent years, creatinine and specific gravity checks have become SOP in most cases, rendering urine color the least aspect in determining an overdiluted sample. Even samples with a nice yellow color to them can still be ruled "too-dilute" due to low creatinine and SG.
    Therefore, the primary focus is now on keeping your creatinine and SG within acceptable ranges to avoid a "too-dilute" ruling.

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    ?? about Vitamins

    Thanx Burnt Toast! I appreciate that informative information. So this is what my situation is..

    I havent burned in about 2-3 days..but before I was a regular smoker. Yesterday..I was downing water like a mad man and had a 32oz orange gatorade too that I had drank. I took a couple of multivitamins that had the B vitamins and a couple of creatine pills my brother had around. I was actually planning on taking the test yesterday but I couldnt get around to it.

    Well I havent been asleep..dunno why i couldnt but this morning around 7ish I started downing water again and I took another silver creatine pill. In total up until now i've prolly drank 5-7 glasses (8oz cups) of water so far and I'm playing on buying another gatorade on the way to the test. On the way I will prolly take another multivitamin and pick up one of those single packs of bayer aspirin, I hear aspirin helps.

    I'm planning on taking the test at 11-11:30, got a class I gotta make it to. Giving what I just stated..do you think there's anything else I could possibly do to help..I need this job danggit lol

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    ?? about Vitamins

    Any creatine-loading must be done at least 3 days before the scheduled U/A because it takes 2-3 days for the body to metabolize creatine into creatinine. Creatinine, being the end waste product, is whats present in urine and tested by the labs.

    Aspirin is old tech. Back in the day, it was used as an interferant for only one type of test: the first-generation EMIT screen. Since then, a second-gen EMIT was introduced to counter the interference issues caused by aspirin. As a result, the first-gen EMIT is seldom used anymore (if, at all).

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    Well I wanted to inform everyone of what has happened over the past couple of days...

    Monday nite-into Tuesday (didnt go to sleep that nite!)..
    So, Tuesday I got up early and started flushing and such because I was going to go with the "dilution method" and try that out. I was banging out mad water and gatorade..taking multivitamins and such. I was planning taking the test that morning but I didnt get to get around to it til like 12ish. But before I went in I also got a substitute sample from someone. The reason I did that was a few weeks ago I tried to take this same test with a friends pee and I guess the temps werent right and such so they tried to make me stay there and take it myself with an observer. I hit them with the "shy bladder syndrome" after drinking about 6 cups of water and got outta there lol!

    So, I was thinking they were going to watch me again so thas why i wanted to have the back up. I go in and for some reason they always wanna try to make you wait like 20 minutes before you can go back and do you thing. When they called me back, it was kind of a relief because they didnt remember me and the observer bathroom is in their lobby so that was cool. How about the form I was given from the person I was supposed to be working with didnt have the one form that had the stickers that cover the tubes they send in I was like come on now!!! But at the same time kinda happy because I knew I wasnt going to have someone watching me. And they lady that was taking my sample, she just seemed to be a lil nosey because she took my urine before when the temps werent right. So I left there knowing I didnt have to be watched. And at this point I had diluted and I was substituting, it wasnt a game this time lol

    Now today, Thursday..I go back to take my test with all the proper sheets in hand..and I didnt dilute today, but was using the substitution method by using a small shampoo bottle that I had tucked in some tight undies w/ boxer briefs over those. On the way I had a cup of hot water too that I sat the tube in before I went in just to be safe. Of course, got there and had to wait 20 mins again! But I must say..putting it in your undies does help keep the temp decent. I went back..and had a different lady today. She was so nice and we talked some..the person I got my sample from almost screwed me by not giving me enough but she said I just made it and didnt make me wait around. You talkin about heart racing and a bit of anxiety of I would've had to sit there for 2 hours and try to pee myself. but she put the stickers on bagged em up and said have a good day!

    All in all, I just wanted to thank all the people that have donated information to the forums for people like myself. Substitution is prolly always teh best way to go if you can and using some of the methods suggested here helped me out a great deal. I know my sample is good because this person doesnt smoke at ALL lol!!! now its just a waiting game to hear back so I can start making that money Thanx again everyone..I F with yall :rastasmoke:

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