Im confused by so many different awnsers!! , plz i need to sort this problem out ???

[budbudding]

, My leaves are rolling back i am worried they are dieing!!! , they was fine untill i changed the night temp , i put a heater in the room to bring the temp up ,b4 i put the heater on they were a bit droopy , but it has always been doing that when it comes to the end of the light session, but when the light comes back on they perk up , but this time they were just rolling right under , also two days ago i repoted into 14ltr pot from 2ltr pots but all looked well , plz i need expert advice ?????


Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights? SUN MASTER 600 WATT DUAL SPECTRUM
2) Distance from tops? 2FT
3) Reflector type?
4) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600WATTS KELVIN RATINGS??? , 18 on 6 off
Your Equipment:
5) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES TWO 4" DUCTING FROM TENT TO OUT SIDE
6) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? How located? YES located @ inside at the top, fan @ top at a slight angle down ways
7) Do you have other equipments like heater, humidifier or any other? NO

Your medium:
8) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) soil -PLAGRON GROW MIX WITH PROLITE, ADDED SUPER THRIVE 10 DROPS PER GALLON
9) Size of container. ????
10) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? NO
11) How did you use it? (How much soil in container, did you press, if transplanted when and from what size etc.)

Your nutrients and water:
12) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) TAP
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. (How often and how much) 1/2 EVERY 3 DAYS
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) How do you water/feed (slowly, pouring all the water at once, until seeing the runoff, etc... Give detail) JUST POUR LET SOAK THEN POUR AGAIN
16) What are the pH values (water, soil, ingoing, runoff) What are the pH checking methods? WATER IN IS ROUGHLY 6.5 USEING TEST , not yet tested out as i havnt waterd enough for a run off!
17) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) SUPERTHRIVE
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? NO

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? IN DOORS , GROW TENT
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 1200X1200X2000 mm
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 79-84 rh 22-35%...With lights off? was 60-65 rh 30-40% , but i got it upto 72f with the heater
22) What type of reflector material you're using for the walls?
23) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room? NO

Your strain:
24) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) ?? JACK
25) From seeds or clones? I GOT THEM AS CUTTINGS
26) Is this an autoflower strain Your Equipment:??

budbudding Reviewed by budbudding on 01-29-2011. Im confused by so many different awnsers!! , plz i need to sort this problem out ??? , My leaves are rolling back i am worried they are dieing!!! , they was fine untill i changed the night temp , i put a heater in the room to bring the temp up ,b4 i put the heater on they were a bit droopy , but it has always been doing that when it comes to the end of the light session, but when the light comes back on they perk up , but this time they were just rolling right under , also two days ago i repoted into 14ltr pot from 2ltr pots but all looked well , plz i need expert advice ????? Rating: 5

[Dutch Pimp]

ADDED SUPER THRIVE 10 DROPS PER GALLON

that's alot of super thrive....

[budbudding]

that's alot of super thrive....

was i advised wrong???

[BackWoodDrifter]

, My leaves are rolling back i am worried they are dieing!!! , they was fine untill i changed the night temp , i put a heater in the room to bring the temp up ,b4 i put the heater on they were a bit droopy , but it has always been doing that when it comes to the end of the light session, but when the light comes back on they perk up , but this time they were just rolling right under , also two days ago i repoted into 14ltr pot from 2ltr pots but all looked well , plz i need expert advice ?????


Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights? SUN MASTER 600 WATT DUAL SPECTRUM
2) Distance from tops? 2FT
3) Reflector type?
4) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600WATTS KELVIN RATINGS??? , 18 on 6 off
Your Equipment:
5) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES TWO 4" DUCTING FROM TENT TO OUT SIDE
6) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? How located? YES located @ inside at the top, fan @ top at a slight angle down ways
7) Do you have other equipments like heater, humidifier or any other? NO

Your medium:
8) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) soil -PLAGRON GROW MIX WITH PROLITE, ADDED SUPER THRIVE 10 DROPS PER GALLON
9) Size of container. ????
10) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? NO
11) How did you use it? (How much soil in container, did you press, if transplanted when and from what size etc.)

Your nutrients and water:
12) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) TAP
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. (How often and how much) 1/2 EVERY 3 DAYS
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?
15) How do you water/feed (slowly, pouring all the water at once, until seeing the runoff, etc... Give detail) JUST POUR LET SOAK THEN POUR AGAIN
16) What are the pH values (water, soil, ingoing, runoff) What are the pH checking methods? WATER IN IS ROUGHLY 6.5 USEING TEST , not yet tested out as i havnt waterd enough for a run off!
17) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) SUPERTHRIVE
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? NO

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? IN DOORS , GROW TENT
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 1200X1200X2000 mm
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? 79-84 rh 22-35%...With lights off? was 60-65 rh 30-40% , but i got it upto 72f with the heater
22) What type of reflector material you're using for the walls?
23) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room? NO

Your strain:
24) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) ?? JACK
25) From seeds or clones? I GOT THEM AS CUTTINGS
26) Is this an autoflower strain Your Equipment:??

Confused caus so many answers correct me ifin I am wrong pilgrem answers amount to one? Hope somein here be helpin ya fur what yu need Luck to yu and yur grow.

BWD

[WashougalWonder]

I am leaning toward over fertilization. I hope you don't have the heater blowing directly on the plants.

Looks to me like too much Nitrogen.

[Rusty Trichome]

Were I you, I'd ditch the Superthrive from your regimin and see how the plant(s) react. You soil is pre-fertilized, and I am doubtful that at this early stage you need ammendments or additives. Especially in mega-doses. (10 drops of Superthrive per gallon is a mega-dose)

Personally...I stopped using Superthrive a few years ago with no regrets. The only place it's ever been proven effective for cannabis, is in the mind(s) of cannabis gardeners. And since nobody knows the formula, what kind of residue are you smoking when you do use it? Will it interract with other meds you are taking? Regardless, it's an overdose. On your next watering day you'll likely want to flush with properly ph'd water. (let the soil dry between waterings, feedings, flushes...)

[budbudding]

Were I you, I'd ditch the Superthrive from your regimin and see how the plant(s) react. You soil is pre-fertilized, and I am doubtful that at this early stage you need ammendments or additives. Especially in mega-doses. (10 drops of Superthrive per gallon is a mega-dose)

Personally...I stopped using Superthrive a few years ago with no regrets. The only place it's ever been proven effective for cannabis, is in the mind(s) of cannabis gardeners. And since nobody knows the formula, what kind of residue are you smoking when you do use it? Will it interract with other meds you are taking? Regardless, it's an overdose. On your next watering day you'll likely want to flush with properly ph'd water. (let the soil dry between waterings, feedings, flushes...)

Thanx rusty , ive been hopein you was gonna comment i heard you the best there is ,. Should i be worried at this stage about them dieing? nothing seems to be going right for me ,. would you not think it could be stress from repotting and change of heat at night? i think is called wilting ??

[budbudding]

Thanx rusty , ive been hopein you was gonna comment i heard you the best there is ,. Should i be worried at this stage about them dieing? nothing seems to be going right for me ,. would you not think it could be stress from repotting and change of heat at night? i think is called wilting ??

also i just noticed the sides are starting to lift up ?? over fert??? im not feeding but there is alot of grow mix in the pot , .. would you think i need to flush a.s.a.p ?????

[Rusty Trichome]

It might be as simple as transplant shock, but...

If noticibly worse every day, do the flush. But once you start doing things back-to-back-to-back...stress will set-in and a diagnosis get's that much tougher. (overfertilizing, transplanting, changing the ambient enviornment, overwatering...) You'll want to avoid keeping the roots saturated, so if you can, hold off till the soil is ready for more moisture.

Mind me asking who it was that told you to add regular doses of 10 drops of Superthrive in addition to your pre-ferted soil? And this was every 3 days...?

You do realize that every time you water, nutrients are being released, right...?

[Weezard]

was i advised wrong???

Yes, yes you were.

I've done side by side tests with superthrive.
It's a scam.
There was no significant difference at any reasonable dosage.
The concentration that was recommended to you can be toxic.
Looks like you were handed a fnord.

My advice?
First.
Patience. "Fix" one thing at a time, then wait to see if it's fixed.
And B.
Cease with the snake oil and listen to Rusty.

Aloha,
Weeze