dark green ,stunted growth ,very flat and shiny , and rough to feel leave, plz help!!

[budbudding]

These very dark green leaves ive got ! their growth have stunted !,. They look like they have been placed in a book and squashed , they are that flat!! and stiff, also look i little crystlised on the egde's !! rough to feel and also the new leave's coming through are very dark green on the outside edge.. Any heard of this b4 ????

@ the moment i can't get pics on but i will try later

budbudding Reviewed by budbudding on 01-28-2011. dark green ,stunted growth ,very flat and shiny , and rough to feel leave, plz help!! These very dark green leaves ive got ! their growth have stunted !,. They look like they have been placed in a book and squashed , they are that flat!! and stiff, also look i little crystlised on the egde's !! rough to feel and also the new leave's coming through are very dark green on the outside edge.. Any heard of this b4 ???? @ the moment i can't get pics on but i will try later Rating: 5

[Agoblue97]

really need the troubleshooting form filled out for more info. Just saying that the leaves are overly dark green sounds like maybe an overabundance of N, but hard to really tell just off the description you've left.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[budbudding]

really need the troubleshooting form filled out for more info. Just saying that the leaves are overly dark green sounds like maybe an overabundance of N, but hard to really tell just off the description you've left.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Your Equipment:
1) Type and wattage of lights? SUN MASTER 600 WATT DUAL SPECTRUM
2) Distance from tops? 2FT
3) Reflector type?
4) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? 600WATTS KELVIN RATINGS??? , 18 on 6 off
Your Equipment:
5) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? YES TWO 4" DUCTING FROM TENT TO OUT SIDE
6) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? How located? YES located @ inside at the top, fan @ top at a slight angle down ways
7) Do you have other equipments like heater, humidifier or any other? NO

Your medium:
8) Specific brand and type of soil, (coco, peat based soilless...) and anything you've added to it. (vermiculite, perlite, worm castings...) soil -PLAGRON GROW MIX WITH PROLITE, ADDED SUPER THRIVE 10 DROPS PER GALLON
9) Size of container. ????
10) Did you use peat pucks (or similar) to root clones or germinate seedlings? NO
11) How did you use it? (How much soil in container, did you press, if transplanted when and from what size etc.)

Your nutrients and water:
12) Source of water? (tap, bottled or filtered) TAP
13) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. List dosages (quantity per gallon) and current feeding schedule. (How often and how much) was 1/2a ltr ever 3 days , but ive just repotted to a 14 ltr pot, only slightly wet the soinl not ye fully watered as old soil was still very wet from last watering
14) How often are you watering between feedings, and how much per watering?not yet feeding plants only 9 10 days old , from a cutting !
15) How do you water/feed (slowly, pouring all the water at once, until seeing the runoff, etc... Give detail) JUST POUR LET SOAK THEN POUR AGAIN
16) What are the pH values (water, soil, ingoing, runoff) What are the pH checking methods? WATER IN IS ROUGHLY 6.5 USEING TEST KIT
17) Any additives or tea's? (Superthrive, CalMag, molasses, Mother's Earth...) SUPERTHRIVE
18) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you spray? NO

Your growroom:
19) Indoors or outdoors? IN DOORS , GROW TENT
20) What size of closet, room or hut? 1200X1200X2000 mm
21) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights on temp is 80-84 rh 20%-33% has been changing alot lately ,and off was 60-70 but cold weather for the last couple of days so its been more like the 60 end rh 29-33,. but today i added a oil heater in the room to raise the temp and now ive got it to 70-72 rh 30 -38
22) What type of reflector material you're using for the walls?
23) Have you seen signs of insects in the grow room? NO

Your strain:
24) What strain are you growing? (Indica dominate or Sativa dom?) ?? JACK
25) From seeds or clones? I GOT THEM AS CUTTINGS
26) Is this an autoflower strain Your Equipment:??

[budbudding]

Also some of the leave's tips have started to point down ! if thats of any help!

[Agoblue97]

Alright after reading the troubleshooting form sounds like things should be going ok for you. As far as the dark green leaves, I really don't know, maybe someone else could help you a little more with that. Only thing I've seen that you've added is Superthrive, unfortunately I don't use that product or am I too familiar with it, so I really don't want to steer you wrong. Sorry

As far as your leaf tip starting to point down, thats just caused from your soil's pH being a little low. Almost everyone deals with this issue to some extent. Not really that big of deal as long as you are aware of what it is, and are careful when watering and feeding not to drop it anymore. If left completely unchecked it can result in lockout. However with you having new plants the soil's buffer are still present and you don't have anything to worry about. I have "problems" with Fox Farm Ocean Forest doing the same to my plants slightly for a couple weeks after transplanting.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[budbudding]

Alright after reading the troubleshooting form sounds like things should be going ok for you. As far as the dark green leaves, I really don't know, maybe someone else could help you a little more with that. Only thing I've seen that you've added is Superthrive, unfortunately I don't use that product or am I too familiar with it, so I really don't want to steer you wrong. Sorry

As far as your leaf tip starting to point down, thats just caused from your soil's pH being a little low. Almost everyone deals with this issue to some extent. Not really that big of deal as long as you are aware of what it is, and are careful when watering and feeding not to drop it anymore. If left completely unchecked it can result in lockout. However with you having new plants the soil's buffer are still present and you don't have anything to worry about. I have "problems" with Fox Farm Ocean Forest doing the same to my plants slightly for a couple weeks after transplanting.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Thats cool mate thanx anyway for your time !
And yeah your right about the ph being a little low , i was ph'ing my water at 6.5. or close to it , when i did come around to buy my self a ph meter i cheacked the run off water and that ph'ed about 5.2-5 ,,.. my water ph is 7.2, so from now on i'll just use untouched water i think ?

[budbudding]

Alright after reading the troubleshooting form sounds like things should be going ok for you. As far as the dark green leaves, I really don't know, maybe someone else could help you a little more with that. Only thing I've seen that you've added is Superthrive, unfortunately I don't use that product or am I too familiar with it, so I really don't want to steer you wrong. Sorry

As far as your leaf tip starting to point down, thats just caused from your soil's pH being a little low. Almost everyone deals with this issue to some extent. Not really that big of deal as long as you are aware of what it is, and are careful when watering and feeding not to drop it anymore. If left completely unchecked it can result in lockout. However with you having new plants the soil's buffer are still present and you don't have anything to worry about. I have "problems" with Fox Farm Ocean Forest doing the same to my plants slightly for a couple weeks after transplanting.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Would you say this is ph prob then , or over heating ???

[cturner1984]

defo a ph problem im going through the same thing.
i was adding stood tap water at 6.4 ph but the nutes in the soil were knocking it down meaning my run off was in the 5s!
ive added some garden lime to the top of the soil(raked it in),then watered once with lime water until my ph up arrives then ill be watering with ph'd tap water of around 7.8 hopeing my run off will be around 6.5......at the start of my grow the least i knew about was ph and its the most important thing to study in IMO.

have you noticed slow growth?
i have plus there grow wider rather than taller.

[budbudding]

defo a ph problem im going through the same thing.
i was adding stood tap water at 6.4 ph but the nutes in the soil were knocking it down meaning my run off was in the 5s!
ive added some garden lime to the top of the soil(raked it in),then watered once with lime water until my ph up arrives then ill be watering with ph'd tap water of around 7.8 hopeing my run off will be around 6.5......at the start of my grow the least i knew about was ph and its the most important thing to study in IMO.

have you noticed slow growth?
i have plus there grow wider rather than taller.

Yeah really slow , some leaves mainly the darker one's stoped growing altogether,. two plants only have four leaves , and ive had them in soil 10 days now , , ready for the bin they are !!

Im also in essex )

Is you new growth showing sighns of a dark colour around the side?

[DzEe206]

one of my plants looked like that but in my case it was due to too much nitrogen. I'm on my first grow so don't take my 2 cents to seriously unless someone backs up what I'm sayong but I could be wrong tho.