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[khyberkitsune]

The ones in full flower, you're gonna have to let them go as-is. The ones starting flower, start training them now. Either use some weights to train the branches or just bend them over until they snap. They'll heal in a week and roll out!

[canniwhatsis]

The ones in full flower, you're gonna have to let them go as-is. The ones starting flower, start training them now. Either use some weights to train the branches or just bend them over until they snap. They'll heal in a week and roll out!

Yep, HST or High Stress Training! (bending until it snaps or collapses/kinks) :jointsmile:


Accidentally did that to a blueberry in week 3 Plant didn't seem to notice it much tho! :thumbsup:

In the pic you can see a slight fold in the stem, I relaxed the training after the pop so it could heal better


None the less, the wife is gonna kick my ass because there's resin all over the lens from trying to sneak the camera in for the shot!!!! :S5:

[LetsSeeYa]

Hey man its been a while looks like its almost that time of the year, im going to give it another go this year. And try to have a good season but its still all outdoors.

you ladies are looking great im along for the ride.

Hey stranger, whats going on bro:thumbsup:ya need to come indoors some time, its a blast Glad ya popped in man:jointsmile:

The ones in full flower, you're gonna have to let them go as-is.

Oh yeah thats the NL plant im finishing along with the company of that purple which has been in 12/12 close to a month to retire that grow space. The purple will fit in the tent to finish with the others shown in that pic. The ones in the tent are sitting on a box vegging under cfl's. I thought id top or lollytop and even maybe sog the two taller ones to get a even cannopy as the others are pretty close in size. The back left plant is perfect to get 5 clones for my 5 site cloner. Thought id veg em while these finish to have something to go in next. Of course id change strains after that run so i dont get to used to it. Summer will be here so i thought id get clones from one outside for 3rd run. I think you see where im going with this.

The ones starting flower, start training them now. Either use some weights to train the branches or just bend them over until they snap. They'll heal in a week and roll out!

Yeah im thinking il have about 3 to 4' after the 12/12 stretch to finish them. That only gives me a foot of space so i better get on the LST. The purple in bud is close to ending its stretching, but after i flip the tent, i have a feeling its going to fill up fast. Well 7 plants at about 1-2' flipped could give me the room, but might not give me the yield? But you said my tent was real good to match up with my lights:thumbsup:, i cant wait man. I have bent my outside plaints, helps uptake big time. The tall one's will snap, because iv got bark on the two tall ones, but weights are a great idea:thumbsup:

Yep, HST or High Stress Training! (bending until it snaps or collapses/kinks) :jointsmile:


Accidentally did that to a blueberry in week 3 Plant didn't seem to notice it much tho! :thumbsup:

In the pic you can see a slight fold in the stem, I relaxed the training after the pop so it could heal better


None the less, the wife is gonna kick my ass because there's resin all over the lens from trying to sneak the camera in for the shot!!!! :S5:

Thanks for the pic Canni:thumbsup:you can tell the wify it was my fault, lol. Yeah the two tall ones are really only whats going to mess up my canopy. It will probably come down to what is going to be the cheapest, which if i had a screen, id try a scrog or part of the tent scrog with the others sitting on something to even it out in there. But like i said, i want a nice yield.

I think the lights should do better in the tent, which gets me pumped after what its doing to the NL and Purple. I think 2 weeks for the NL and 4-5 for the purple. Then flip the tent with the purple already started and the rest in there, only with the LED's hung proper:wtf:

Thanks for stopping in guys, iv been sorta board in here, but i guess this is just getting started. But the LED's will be in the tent before the month is over. I noticed roots popping up through the soil of the pots in the tent and i just re potted them 2 weeks ago:wtf:. So i just up potted a bit and hope to be able to hang in these pots till a few days before the LED's are in the tent. Its the Bio Tone i think, i only need to give water, the stuff is great and is what my hydro guy uses. One cup per 1 gal of soil and water till second week of flower, nice.

If anything i sure will be bending and lots of LST. Thanks again guys:thumbsup:its feels great to get some input, i havent grown one since summer and ya know where that went, shit, lol. So many options, id like another tent for clones to veg in, that would work out well:jointsmile:


Thanks man:rasta:

[StickyBuds1987]

Hey stranger, whats going on bro:thumbsup:ya need to come indoors some time, its a blast Glad ya popped in man:jointsmile:

Yeah not much man just trying to get ready for spring, i wish i could grow indoors i would have did that last year, but no can do this year but when i get a new place i will give it a shot.

There has been a lot of good bud going around, sometimes i find a couple seeds in an oz so i have been saving them. Now i have a few diff strains of some good bud even if its only bag seed, i plan on buying some better seeds once i get a few grows under my belt.

[canniwhatsis]

Thanks for the pic Canni:thumbsup:you can tell the wify it was my fault, lol. Yeah the two tall ones are really only whats going to mess up my canopy. It will probably come down to what is going to be the cheapest, which if i had a screen, id try a scrog or part of the tent scrog with the others sitting on something to even it out in there. But like i said, i want a nice yield.

Dude,.... you've got to at least TRY Scrog! I've run a side by side, and the canopy of the SCROG wound up shading the lower branches of the natural plant I even moved the natural grow up some so it could get better light down low.

Both did well, but finished the SCROG took the day,.... I'd have to do separate area's to be done right tho, and I can't do that with my equipment and space.


As for budget,... Natural all the way. Ease of grow,... again Natural all the way! :hippy:

I'm fortunate that I'm using a fixed solid walled room in my grow, so I can just staple the screen to the walls, if using a tent tho you have to come up with a frame to support the screen in addition to the cost of the screen. At least setting up the screen is a 1x cost

And the benefit of SCROG,.... IMHO outweighs the additional labor, and initial setup cost

[LetsSeeYa]

Dude,.... you've got to at least TRY Scrog! I've run a side by side, and the canopy of the SCROG wound up shading the lower branches of the natural plant I even moved the natural grow up some so it could get better light down low.

Dude after seeing your scrog and Finn's, i flipped when i saw the yield of only a few plants. I am still unsure as to which way im going, but would like to split the tent up, maybe and try that scrog. My lights will go in before the end of the month, so iv got to make up up my mind. I could put the scrog under 4 plants, which are in the middle of the tent and lollipop the 2 that stretched a bit to much when they were in my retired veg box. Just a thought. But im unsure how difficult it will be for me to tie everything up, but im not afraid to try:hippy:never have or i wouldn't be chatting with you bro:thumbsup:

Both did well, but finished the SCROG took the day,.... I'd have to do separate area's to be done right tho, and I can't do that with my equipment and space.

My tent is 4' x 2' x 5', which im thinking after taking clones from the back right plant, il have enough space. The lollipopped 2 shouldn't take up to much space as if i bend them, i might as well just snip them off, because they are really hard to bend. But the weight idea could work, but only have 12 days for that to work. Although leaving the weights there through flowering would work i think, its a great idea iv never seen.

How much room did you use for your scrog? I think i read it, but not sure now. And if i do scrog, what should i prepare myself for? I have grown a few plants, but mostly outsideand grew with CFL'S, which are under rated IMO, great for noob's if they control the heat. Heck my first indoor, i even used pre-ferted soil and just used plain water through the entire grow, it turned out killer. But this needs to be bigger and better as i think each grow should.

As for budget,... Natural all the way. Ease of grow,... again Natural all the way! :hippy:

Dude im using Bio Tone and luvin it:thumbsup:. One cup per one gallon of soil. My hydro guy uses it and gave me 5 cups to do a test run so the only get water till around 4th week of flower. Its all he uses and a 10lb bag is 10 bucks. So far its working great as 4 of the 6 in the tent have it and iv only given water so far. And all organic! But will see in bud:thumbsup:

I'm fortunate that I'm using a fixed solid walled room in my grow, so I can just staple the screen to the walls, if using a tent tho you have to come up with a frame to support the screen in addition to the cost of the screen. At least setting up the screen is a 1x cost

And the benefit of SCROG,.... IMHO outweighs the additional labor, and initial setup cost

Your right about the one time cost and wood for a frame. Do you remember the gage of wire you used? Only because im not messing with the chicken wire as i know you had a tough time at harvest with it and what your using now looks like its easier to work with:thumbsup:

Thanks for posting bro:thumbsup:im only on my second go round so any input helps me with which way to go with it. I have to take in consideration my lack of dexterity in my fingers, but im thinking about small zip ties. Its all about adapting for me bro, thats why the more input, the more ideas i can think of adapting to fit me



Thanks Canni:rasta:

[bigsby]

Bio Tone makes a bunch of different products. You might want to specify which you are using.

[LetsSeeYa]

Bio Tone makes a bunch of different products. You might want to specify which you are using.

I think this is what he gave me, but im not sure as it didn't come in the original package. But he told me the N-P-K was 4-3-3, which this was the only one to have these numbers, but i will call him to find out.

Have you used this before bigsby? I really havent seen to many people that even mention it on this site. But my hydro guy luvs it and told me its all he uses, but he mixes it by the bail of something i cant remember. He gets over my head at times with talk of lots of micro nutes. Plus soils that are good to mix the Bio Tone product with.

He told me to just give water till 2nd week of flower, but i did run into a problem. I re potted outta the party cups, which had been put off for good reasons. They went into 2.5 liter pots and two weeks later, i had roots showing on top of the soil so i just added soil to cover them. I am hoping to get through 9 days before a re pot to 1 gallon pots. Which i think is way to small, but he thinks that i can get through flower with them, im thinking at least 3 gallon pots to get through without a re pot in flower?


http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/pdf...iotoneplus.pdf




Thanks for stopping in bigsby:rasta:

[bigsby]

I think this is what he gave me, but im not sure as it didn't come in the original package. But he told me the N-P-K was 4-3-3, which this was the only one to have these numbers, but i will call him to find out.

Have you used this before bigsby? I really havent seen to many people that even mention it on this site. But my hydro guy luvs it and told me its all he uses, but he mixes it by the bail of something i cant remember. He gets over my head at times with talk of lots of micro nutes. Plus soils that are good to mix the Bio Tone product with.

No I haven't but I have always like the idea of providing veg nutes in the soil. It just seems so much easier IF you can get the right balance. I've been afraid of it though judging from others experience with MG soils.

Espoma makes a number of Tone products. You are likely familiar with Holly Tone. I believe you are using the Starter Plus product. See: Espoma-Bio-Tone-Starter-Plus-4-3-3

Keep us posted on your results!

[bigsby]

Oh oops. Just saw your link to the starter plus product. I'll be interested in your results and will likely give it a try if you have a good experience. Please confirm the product if you can.

I would do 3 gallon pots but it depends on how tall / long you plan to veg them. You know the rule of thumb - 1 gallon / foot of plant.