This isnt easy, is it?

[canniwhatsis]

Was talking with a Hydro store owner,... said he had to send a pallet of soil back because of gnats,....

I got a bag from a different store about 2 weeks later, after potting the first plant into it I saw a few wingged things in my room,.... I told the other store about the bugs, and checked with yet another to see if they had the same problem,... yes, and yes.... but I was still stuck with half a screwed up bag.

No problem tho, "Don't bug me" has knocked them out before, and worked again,... also a light Neem misting on the soil sure doesn't hurt,.... all my girls get it in vege.

Anyway, I can't be certain if the soil it self is P deficient, but the plants that went into that dirt didn't fair as well. It wouldn't surprise me if aside from the bugs that something else was wrong with the mix.

I've up potted and gotten some recovery on my (Hermi found that out AFTER I up potted! :cursing: ) ISS mother, and did a root prune and re-potting on my blueberry mother,.... again same results getting recovery. The White Widow that was effected has only gotten a tea of high P fert, and it's doing better, but not as quickly as the others..... She's due for a new home anyway.

[MadSativa]

doesnt look like a pathogen completely, to me, looks like a difficency then something is getting on the leaves while the the plant is sickend. I am gonna go with a flush and start using calmag on a regular. problem with soil is it doesnt have agage for when the nutes are all used up, so mabey like theri saying the batch is old and some of the nutrients are gon, or mabey they were not as abundant. also fist things first check ph of run off, and ph goin in,

if theri on then a flush would help and during the final flush of the pot add some light nutes and some calmag, thats what it looks like to me a cal mag defficency or a lock out, then something is getting on those leaves while theri sick , a easy food source. so some neem protection should help, how ever the sik leaves are not gonna get better so the real bad ones can come off, however leave the ones with green on, so you can monitor the progress, also if you take oall the leaves off the harvest is greatly going down too.

this is the biggest reson i am shying away from soil, it is harder to monitor the nutrinrts in theri and their are far better mediums out theri and if your goin to reuse the soil you have to take even more precautions, so I am realy leaning toward coco, becaesu of its simplisity and ability to be reused.

[polishpollack]

Any chance you could take better photos? At this point it looks like a nute problem.

[Stomper420]

heres somemore pics. I did remove all the bad leaves. Last week I did a realheavy spray with serenade garden disease control. Maybe that did something:wtf: I also took the no pest strip out

Im at a loss

[Stomper420]

And reading back I didnt spray the clones/new cuts. Maybe I sprayed to much of that shit on them We will see......

[gypski]

And reading back I didnt spray the clones/new cuts. Maybe I sprayed to much of that shit on them We will see......

Its a bad batch of Fox Farm. I have some that did the same thing. I've been giving them only water and lite nutes occasionally. I really should put them in a bigger pots, since it only two from seed, but I'm kinda undecided as to what I'm going to do. I need to flower them and the others but ................ with things right now. Its the soil so flush, flush or transplant into new. :thumbsup:

[polishpollack]

My money's on the heavy spray.

[Stomper420]

Im betting the spray too...Double up!!!

I went and cleaned everything, took longer then I wanted. I put my lil girls back in too soon and aslo sprayed the whole plant,top and bottom. Im thinking too much shit in the room Seem fine now caus I plucked all the bad ones off but if it was a nute diff then Id think Id still see new, no? So far so good. The thing that gets me is I sprayed my big girls pretty hevy too. Maybe caus they are tougher?

[canniwhatsis]

were the big girls up potted into soil from the same bag that the littler sick girls are in?

I got thinking about it, and it seems to only be effecting my vege girls,... but I didn't use a whole bag on them,..... the rest of the bag went into flowering plants,.... but my flowering wasn't messed up. :wtf:

Here's my theory,

the soil is heavily P Deficient

I don't normally feed in vege, so there was no fresh source of P resulting in problems

I DO however feed in Flower, so while still slightly deficient, there was some compensation minimizing the effect,.... tho I'm now nearing the end of flower and thinking that I lost a LOT of yield by not catching this earlier. Reduced flower formations are another sign of P deficiency,.... and these buds are MUCH smaller than the last grow of the strain.

I'm knocking it up to being the soil, keep an eye on your girls.

Other than that your grow log looks awesome bro! :thumbsup: :weedpoke:

[Stomper420]

Who knows, sombody else said nute lock and to flush with phed water. Ill takemy chaces and see if they fix themselvs.:thumbsup: