Propossed Compassion Center in Providence RI..Has this been Posted Here Before?

[CuriousDaimon]

2.12 Compassion Center Authorized Activities. A compassion center registered pursuant to §5.0 of these Regulations may acquire, possess, cultivate, manufacture, deliver, transfer, transport, supply, or dispense marijuana, or related supplies and educational materials, to registered qualifying patients and their registered primary caregivers who have designated it as one of their primary caregivers.

5.1.2 A compassion center shall not acquire, possess, cultivate, manufacture, deliver, transfer, transport, supply or dispense marijuana for any purpose except to assist registered qualifying patients with the medical use of marijuana directly or through the qualifying patientâ??s other primary caregiver.

There are heavy inventory requirements within the law, but nothing that explicitly requires documentation of where medicine is acquired.

6.11 A registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver may give marijuana to another registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver to whom they are not connected through the Departmentâ??s registration process established pursuant to these Regulations, provided that no consideration is paid for the marijuana, and that the recipient does not exceed the applicable limits specified in §2.8 of these Regulations.

So, in a nutshell, the law does not seem to protect the sale of medical marijuana from a patient or caregiver to a compassion center. The only protected transaction that is protected by law (as described at RIPAC orientation) is between a patient and his/her registered caregiver. Otherwise, gifts only.

6.5 A primary caregiver may receive reimbursement for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana. Compensation shall not constitute sale of controlled substances.

Highflyer seems to be correct that the law would have to be changed in order for compassion centers to be able to acquire medicine from patients/caregivers and allow those people to be compensated.

None of the applications I have read account within their budgets to acquire medicine. There is a standard ramp-up timetable, and those centers that deviate will most likely not be licensed. One center has networked with patients and caregivers to have strains donated. This might be a successful model, but does not warrant self-sufficiency.

I don't think Rhode Island will go the way of California, where growers can supplement their incomes by selling to dispensaries.

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on Television. I do, however, like to read and be thorough. Please, if you have salient data that refutes my interpretation...I insist you share. All of the above quotes are right out of the Slater law itself, available on the RI DOH website and linked various times on this forum.

Be well,

CD

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[oceangrown]

2.12 Compassion Center Authorized Activities. A compassion center registered pursuant to §5.0 of these Regulations may acquire, possess, cultivate, manufacture, deliver, transfer, transport, supply, or dispense marijuana, or related supplies and educational materials, to registered qualifying patients and their registered primary caregivers who have designated it as one of their primary caregivers.

5.1.2 A compassion center shall not acquire, possess, cultivate, manufacture, deliver, transfer, transport, supply or dispense marijuana for any purpose except to assist registered qualifying patients with the medical use of marijuana directly or through the qualifying patientâ??s other primary caregiver.

There are heavy inventory requirements within the law, but nothing that explicitly requires documentation of where medicine is acquired.

6.11 A registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver may give marijuana to another registered qualifying patient or registered primary caregiver to whom they are not connected through the Departmentâ??s registration process established pursuant to these Regulations, provided that no consideration is paid for the marijuana, and that the recipient does not exceed the applicable limits specified in §2.8 of these Regulations.

So, in a nutshell, the law does not seem to protect the sale of medical marijuana from a patient or caregiver to a compassion center. The only protected transaction that is protected by law (as described at RIPAC orientation) is between a patient and his/her registered caregiver. Otherwise, gifts only.

6.5 A primary caregiver may receive reimbursement for costs associated with assisting a registered qualifying patient's medical use of marijuana. Compensation shall not constitute sale of controlled substances.

Highflyer seems to be correct that the law would have to be changed in order for compassion centers to be able to acquire medicine from patients/caregivers and allow those people to be compensated.

None of the applications I have read account within their budgets to acquire medicine. There is a standard ramp-up timetable, and those centers that deviate will most likely not be licensed. One center has networked with patients and caregivers to have strains donated. This might be a successful model, but does not warrant self-sufficiency.

I don't think Rhode Island will go the way of California, where growers can supplement their incomes by selling to dispensaries.

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on Television. I do, however, like to read and be thorough. Please, if you have salient data that refutes my interpretation...I insist you share. All of the above quotes are right out of the Slater law itself, available on the RI DOH website and linked various times on this forum.

Be well,

CD

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WRONG!! Nice try though! Keep diggin!! Or maybe don't ......

[CuriousDaimon]

I guess we can't all be cannabis wonks?

:weedpoke:

[wkpjr1967]

WRONG!! Nice try though! Keep diggin!! Or maybe don't ......

If CD is wrong can you point out the provision on the law that allows for caregivers or patients can legally sell medication to a care center.

I don't see too many caregivers or patients going through the hard work of growing just to gift to a care center that is going to turn around and sell the medication for $200 to $500 an oz!

[hghflyrjd1]

If CD is wrong can you point out the provision on the law that allows for caregivers or patients can legally sell medication to a care center.

I don't see too many caregivers or patients going through the hard work of growing just to gift to a care center that is going to turn around and sell the medication for $200 to $500 an oz!

Right.He seems to just poke his head in to down everyones posts.

[theccman]

Hope apothecary's strain selection sucks! They picked them off of Ripac's list and from some ed rosenthal source. All the strains they listed are outdated ...Even then , starting from seed there is no guarantee they will be a potent pheno found. Also they say they will have meds two months from approval. How the hell are they gonna start seeds or even from clone and get finished cured meds in 60 days??? BS

From what I understand Aurora Indica, G13 1st gen, Bubble Gum, C+ 3rd gen are good meds? They also have access to strong phenom clones from certified Dutch Growers in the states who know their stuff. No seed required so I don't know where you get your info. bro? Personally, if I were an existing care giver or group of caregivers, I could easily to pump up production in the begining by flipping my existing CG crop(s) to produce enough medicine to achieve the goals of providing cured meds within 60 days of getting the license. Once you make the transition from CG(s) to Compassion Center it wouldn't be hard to ramp up quickly if you do it right and stick to the guidlines. I'm just sayin...lol

I here that Hope Apoth has access to 32+ strains which have verified medicinal value.

Read their verifiable credentials on the application, the plan explains everything if you can read through it...lol Very deep and detailed. Read them all, you be the judge. Until you do, don't take anyones word for it, do the research. I put a link to the applications online:thumbsup:

[oceangrown]

From what I understand Aurora Indica, G13 1st gen, Bubble Gum, C+ 3rd gen are good meds? They also have access to strong phenom clones from certified Dutch Growers in the states who know their stuff. No seed required so I don't know where you get your info. bro? Personally, if I were an existing care giver or group of caregivers, I could easily to pump up production in the begining by flipping my existing CG crop(s) to produce enough medicine to achieve the goals of providing cured meds within 60 days of getting the license. Once you make the transition from CG(s) to Compassion Center it wouldn't be hard to ramp up quickly if you do it right and stick to the guidlines. I'm just sayin...lol

I here that Hope Apoth has access to 32+ strains which have verified medicinal value.

Read their verifiable credentials on the application, the plan explains everything if you can read through it...lol Very deep and detailed. Read them all, you be the judge. Until you do, don't take anyones word for it, do the research. I put a link to the applications online:thumbsup:

I read through , while not every word of the 400+ pages. A lot of the info on medicinal cannabis was just cut and pasted. I guess if they had plants already in flower , they could have meds in 60 days . If you started from a clone for example, youd need to veg at least 1-3 weeks and flower at least 50 days , with most being 60+ days. SO that's at the earliest 57 days , and that not including drying and hopefully at least a 4 week + cure!

I did not see them list 32 strains just these-

Afghan (pure)
â?¢ Treatment: â??narcotic, sedative, relaxing; chronic pain, muscle spasms, anti-nausea,
antiemetic, and appetite stimulantâ?� (Ed Rosenthal, RIPAC and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 100% Indica
â?¢ Parents: Landrace heritage
Aurora Indica
â?¢ Treatment: â??fast, effective sedative, sleep inducerâ?� (Ed Rosenthal and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 90/10 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Nirvana Northern Lights and Nirvana Afghan
White Rhino
â?¢ Treatment: â??prized in medical community for effective relief of chronic pain; relaxing,
narcotic-benefit, chronic pain, anti-nausea, antiemetic, and appetite stimulantâ?� (RIPAC
and Ed Rosenthal)
â?¢ Strain: 90/10 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Afghan and Brazilian/South Indian
Vanilla Kush
â?¢ Treatment: â??Higher than usual CBD levels even for typical Indica strains; Medical
patients specifically report immediate relief from muscle spasms, headaches; Sedation,
Muscle Spasm Relief/Muscle Relaxation, Pain Reliefâ?� (Danny Danko and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 80/20 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Kashmir Hash Plant and Kush
Big Bang
â?¢ Treatment: â??Physical, muscle relaxation, pain relief, semi-narcotic ;Known for medicinal
properties and chosen by many medicinal users in Holland where it is known as Simm-
18, known to be good for muscle relaxer, for MS and chronic pain alleviationâ?� (Ed
Rosenthal and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 80/20 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Skunk/Northern Lights and El Nino
Blueberry
â?¢ Treatment: chronic pain, muscle spasms, anti-nausea, antiemetic, and appetite stimulant
(RIPAC, Ed Rosenthal and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 80/20 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Blueberry strains
Blue Cheese
â?¢ Treatment: MS, chronic pain, muscle spasms, anti-nausea, antiemetic, and appetite
stimulant (Ed Rosenthal, RIPAC and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 80/20 Indica Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Blueberry and bug Buddha cheese
Hope Apothecary 2010©
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Chronic
â?¢ Treatment: â??Effect is head and body; muscle spasms, anti-nausea, antiemetic, and
appetite stimulant (Ed Rosenthal, RIPAC and other sources)
â?¢ Strain: 50/50
â?¢ Parents: Northern Lights Skunk, Northern lights, AK-47
White Widow
â?¢ Treatment: â?? Effect is head and body; epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, and other seizurerelated
illnesses (RIPAC and Ed Rosenthal)
â?¢ Strain: 60/40 Sativa Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Indian / Brazilian
AK-47
â?¢ Treatment: â??Alert, appetite stimulant, chronic painâ?� (Ed Rosenthal, RIPAC and other
sources)
â?¢ Strain: 65/35 Sativa Dominant
â?¢ Parents: Columbian, Mexican, Thai, Afghani


With sources cited as RIPAC , ed rosenthal , and Donny Darko of HIGH TIMES
High times top 10 medical list is so influenced by who advertises with them too

Their application was very detailed and looked great , but if your growing crappy strains ......

[oceangrown]

Also , what may I ask would a "certified Dutch grower " be?

The dutch got all their genetics from the states in the 80's , a lot from Sam the Skunkman . ALso if you have ever been to Holland, their Buds are inferior to what you would find here state side . California and Colorado is where it's at! WHy do you think High Times is moving the cup to Colorado ?

Doesn't matter anyway really , it is RI remember . WHo ever is the most connected and greases the most palms will be the first to open up.....:jointsmile:

[hghflyrjd1]

Also , what may I ask would a "certified Dutch grower " be?

The dutch got all their genetics from the states in the 80's , a lot from Sam the Skunkman . ALso if you have ever been to Holland, their Buds are inferior to what you would find here state side . California and Colorado is where it's at! WHy do you think High Times is moving the cup to Colorado ?

Doesn't matter anyway really , it is RI remember . WHo ever is the most connected and greases the most palms will be the first to open up.....:jointsmile:

I will agree win the last part.

[RIpatient7]

I will agree win the last part.

DITTO!!