calling all canadians

[amsterdam]

what is up with your government??you guys spend to much time worrying about us and now your political leaders are turning into scammers.

your government has a press clamp on an investigation into the ruling liberal parties "Adscam" kickback scheme.(sounds like iran)A" judicial publication ban" is the term.It may soon rank with watergate rhetoric like"modified limited hangout"
Canadian prime minister and liberal perty leader Paul Martin is implicated in the Adscam fiasco,and he is starting to look like the northlands Richard Nixon.

sounds like your country has spent to much time worried about our buisness and our now getting screwed.

amsterdam Reviewed by amsterdam on 04-28-2005. calling all canadians what is up with your government??you guys spend to much time worrying about us and now your political leaders are turning into scammers. your government has a press clamp on an investigation into the ruling liberal parties "Adscam" kickback scheme.(sounds like iran)A" judicial publication ban" is the term.It may soon rank with watergate rhetoric like"modified limited hangout" Canadian prime minister and liberal perty leader Paul Martin is implicated in the Adscam fiasco,and he is starting Rating: 5

[F L E S H]

what is up with your government??you guys spend to much time worrying about us and now your political leaders are turning into scammers.

your government has a press clamp on an investigation into the ruling liberal parties "Adscam" kickback scheme.(sounds like iran)A" judicial publication ban" is the term.It may soon rank with watergate rhetoric like"modified limited hangout"
Canadian prime minister and liberal perty leader Paul Martin is implicated in the Adscam fiasco,and he is starting to look like the northlands Richard Nixon.

sounds like your country has spent to much time worried about our buisness and our now getting screwed.

First of all, we've been aware of this for years now, we haven't been worrying only about you. Just because there's no topic about it on this board, doesn't mean we canadians don't think about it. When our government does something shitty, only Cnadians know about it and feel the effects. When the US government does something shitty, the entire world feels the effects.

Second of all, read all my posts about Canada, I NEVER said that this is a peachy place where everything's A-OK. Our government is utter crap, the Liberals are one of the most corrupt governments we ever had. The reason there's a publication ban is because the judge, a highly respected and capable one at that, doesn't want the media to run with half-truths and testimonies taken out of context.

In the end, the Liberals just plain and simple got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. However, I think they got caught doing what ALL governments do, they were just stupid about it. But I hope the heads start rolling, at least to make the next government stay relatively honest...

[amsterdam]

[QUOTE=F L E S H]First of all, we've been aware of this for years now, we haven't been worrying only about you. Just because there's no topic about it on this board, doesn't mean we canadians don't think about it. When our government does something shitty, only Cnadians know about it and feel the effects. When the US government does something shitty, the entire world feels the effects.

Second of all, read all my posts about Canada, I NEVER said that this is a peachy place where everything's A-OK. Our government is utter crap, the Liberals are one of the most corrupt governments we ever had. The reason there's a publication ban is because the judge, a highly respected and capable one at that, doesn't want the media to run with half-truths and testimonies taken out of context.

In the end, the Liberals just plain and simple got caught with their hands in the cookie jar. However, I think they got caught doing what ALL governments do, they were just stupid about it. But I hope the heads start rolling, at least to make the next government stay relatively honest...[/QUOT


you cant not let the media do its job??thats crazy!because they dont want them to write half truths??can you even imagine if W had done that???

sounds a little socialist to me.i cant believe that idiot hasnt been voted out yet.

[amsterdam]

the media in the states is all half truths!!that didnt stop[ W during election time.

the New York Times said that top govt official were responsible for abu ghraib 96 times in 28 days during the election.even though 4 different inquiries proved that wasnt true.people were responsible and a few are doind 10 years in prison now(for what who knows).bush didnt cry like a bitch and ban the media

even though everyone in America knows that The New York Times is a extremist left wing newspaper

[F L E S H]

It's a judge's right to make a publication ban. It doesn't mean we don't know anything about it. It's similar to what's happened in the Michael Jackson trial. Just because the media isn't allowed in, doesn't mean we don't know what's happening.

[F L E S H]

Gomery grants publication ban on testimony
CTV.ca News Staff


Pre-empting a media frenzy, Justice John Gomery has granted a request for a partial publication ban on testimony from three key witnesses set to appear before his sponsorship program inquiry.

That means the man who ran the now-defunct sponsorship program and two former advertising executives will take the stand, but what they say won't make the news.

The ruling applies to the testimony of former bureaucrat Chuck Guite, and two former ad executives, Paul Coffin and Jean Brault.

All three are facing criminal charges in the sponsorship case, and their lawyers say the publication of their testimony at the inquiry could bias potential jurors when it comes to their impending criminal trials.

They are scheduled to begin in May, shortly after the three are set to appear before Gomery's commission.

In his decision Tuesday, the veteran Quebec justice agreed, saying that the intense media coverage could sway public opinion during the trials.

"Media reports of which I am aware refer to a high degree of public indignation at certain recent revelations in the evidence presented before the commission," Gomery said.

"Applying common judicial experience and common sense, these factors probably make it more difficult than previously to empanel an impartial and dispassionate jury."

The publication ban on live reporting of testimony will remain in effect until jurors are sequestered in the trials. Meaning Canadians will hear what is said in the Inquiry, but likely not before months have passed.

In the meantime, media lawyers will have a daily chance to challenge the ban.

At the end of each day, they will have a chance to convince Gomery of the merits of allowing the testimony to be reported.

And, other witnesses' testimony about the three will not be covered by the ban.

A fact Guite's lawyer Richard Auger says undermines the effort.

"It seems to me, that the whole purpose of the order is in some way compromised by not having it apply to other witnesses," he said.

Guite previously testified at the inquiry when it was being held in Ottawa. However, the hearings have since moved to Montreal, where media coverage is more extensive, and has garnered much more attention.

Tainted Jury

Media lawyer Mark Bantey said he was disappointed by Gomery's decision to implement the ban. He said a jury is able to render a verdict based solely on evidence.

"Members of the jury are intelligent people. They can set aside any preconceived notions.''

That same sentiment was heard on the street as well.

"It should be all laid out," one unhappy Montrealer told CTV News. "It's our money and we have the right to know what they did with it."

Aside from the publication ban, Guite and Coffin made three other requests of Gomery, all of which he turned down.

One was to hold testimony behind closed doors, without reporters or the public present. The two men also wanted a ban slapped on other witness testimony that could compromise the trial.

Another request was made to delay their appearance at the inquiry. Gomery said that would unduly delay the inquiry proceedings.

Gomery is leading the probe into what went wrong with the $250-million sponsorship program. More than a year ago, Auditor General Sheila Fraser reported that $100 million went to Liberal-friendly sponsorship firms for little or no work rendered.

Guite, Brault and Coffin are scheduled to appear at the inquiry next month.

Then at the beginning of May, Brault and Guite are to be tried together for allegedly defrauding the federal government of almost $2 million.

Coffin will face a separate trial at the same time, on charges he falsified bills for payments from the government totaling nearly $2 million.

Revelations from the Gomery inquiry have damaged the Liberals somewhat. Prime Minister's Quebec lieutenant, Transport Minister Jean Lapierre, acknowledged that in an interview Sunday with CTV's Question Period.

"I wouldn't want to go to the polls at this time... right in the middle of this,'' said Lapierre.

"People are judging us with a lot of cynicism.''

However, he wouldn't say if the inquiry would cost the Liberals more seats in Quebec.

"Let's wait 'til after this is all done. They'll realize that it's nobody in this government,'' responsible for the former sponsorship program, said Lapierre.

[amsterdam]

that is gonna be an easy challenge.

[F L E S H]

Why do you attack everything I say? I never even said I supported the ban, I'm just trying to explain it. I know things should always be out there. You can be quite annoying sometimes...

[amsterdam]

dont get your panties in a wad frenchy,i know you were explaning it.for real,o wasnt trying to be rude at all.i was saying the media lawyers have a good case,

[CletusVandam]

this has nothing to do with the topic at hand amsterdam. been tryin to catch up with u for a while. i will be in the chat room.