Thanks WW! Lookin gooooooood! I really think just adding the molasses has done wonders for mine...the longer it cures the better it gets! I'm down to one rip in the morning with coffee now and that's all I can do til noon if I want to accomplish anything! And I still sit for ten mins after taking it staring at the wall! Don't even think about the knee pain lately either! In fact, I waded around the last two days chest deep in freezing water duck hunting and the knees didn't bother me much at all. I'd be very interested in a smoke report on your widow when it's done...what did you cross it with? Or is it a secret?