Thanks for the replies fellas, I do appreicate them!!! Do I need to test the ph of the soil, water or both? I've added a 150 watt HPS about 2ft above the tops and it seems to have helped a little, they're still growing a look strong. I don't know what poker2 is using but I'm using bag seeds and that might be the problem but its kinda weird. I'm going to try and get some pics this weekend and post. Again, THANKS!!!