[quote=MichiganDragon]or the stuff you put in jars for weeks that never works.
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This is definitely not true. Maybe some folks are not using good buds. My friend uses afghan goo and does leave it for months. He strains out the buds and repeats the process with fresh buds. Just 1 or 2 ml of his tincture will get you very high in less than 5 minutes. I am not sure about the time discrepancy that seventhchild describes. The tincture is stronger than what most folks describe but does taste very nasty. It does however always work.