Nodes growing out then die?

[LetsSeeYa]

So i thought i would put a few pic's up of this plant iv been nursing. It looks much better if you have been following along and seen the previous pic's.

I have stop the Fossil Fuel and have been feeding the Earth Juice Grow and Bloom at this time. I have cut down little by little with the Grow and have been increasing the Bloom. I am not to full strength with the Bloom yet and still need to get the last of the Earth Juice line, which is used the last 2 weeks of flowering. But im not sure if il get it or not as iv tried to get everything needed, but ran out of funds. I do have FF additives i could use in its place if needed, but i must say she is looking great now. And i still remember that sweet taste she has to her so im getting pumped as buds begin to get bigger.


I still have the growth coming from the main stem and dies, but the plant has gotten greener and new growth is not effected where bud growth is coming from. But i am still curious what could cause this for later plants i grow for general knowledge. I still have some yellowing at the leaf tips and some edges, but more then not, the leaves look nice and green:thumbsup:and plenty of bud sites as you can see.

These pics are better so maybe someone has an idea:thumbsup:



Thanks for stopping by:rasta:

[MadSativa]

after looking at them for a while I can say I have no idea , but I would want to take a look at the roots to see what is going on, and aslo to try to make this from happening again. but I have no idea mabey the soil is not so good?

[LetsSeeYa]

Just a couple things I noticed...

I use humic acid once a month as an additive. I tried using it weekly, but plants stunted and root growth was greatly accelerated, (rootbound issues started showing) so I use it only after my monthly flush.

Well Rusty i used the Fossil Fuel or [Humic Acid] to help over all plant growth and i believe it did work. My reading on it said not only would it help root growth and structure, but assist in over all health of the plant, which was something i needed. And i used it more then once a week for a bit, which is why it got root bound so fast as you pointed out. I like the stuff, but as advised, i will not use it as often as i did with this plant. But i will use it with re pots maybe as it helps fight off virus and helps with infestations according to the site.

Potassium sulfate (Meta-K) can build-up and can potentially alter (raise) ph if overdone. What hapepns if you don't use the Meta-K?

I have stop using the Meta-K maybe 3 feeding ago and have only used the Earth Juice Grow and Bloom at this time. I have been slowly fading out the Grow and adding more Bloom and im seeing nice bud growth

At what point do the leaves start falling off? Early growth phase, late growth phase, at the start of flowering...?

The leaves would only fall after they would completely dry up. It would start with veins with yellow on the outer parts of them, then spread from finger to finger, then dry out and fall off.

But this is not happening any more, its only the growth on the main stems, which i pictured the post before today. But if you have time to open the above pics, you will see that it still continues at different parts of the main stems only.

Do you flush...? If so, how often and how much?

What do the roots smell like?

I flushed when i re potted, but not when i recently re potted into the 5 gal pot. But once she went to the 5 gal, everything about her started looking better, but the growth from the main stem. Someone said that she might be just showing her age and it seems like its not interrupting the plants production as of yet. But im just wanting to figure out what would cause this as iv never seen it on any ones plants or my own before.

I did not smell the roots, but have done lots with Bonsai so i would have figured that out by looking at them and feeling them.

Are your nutrients over a year old?[/QUOTE]

Stamped date on nutes say they are fresh:thumbsup:

Dirt? Dirt is what you clean from under your fingernails. I'm guessing you meant soil...? (you're not using ANY dirt from your fields, are you) :wtf:

Yes my medium is soil bought from my nursery and this is the 3rd bad mixed with about 25-30% perlite. I would never use field dirt, but if you wanted to you could. But it needs baked in the oven, which smells really bad, not to mention all the goodies a person would need to add to it to have the necessary organizes in the soil that a plant would need for growing. I wouldn't know where to start so i by mine. I have found a place i can get anything i need now so il go with the FF or bio tone, which is something the hydro guy told me would work great. He said no nutes till 2 week flowering:wtf:but gotta look into this further.

If it is a disease, cloning won't help. I would strip my additives, and go with the basics only.

this is what iv been doing. I only needed to find something that would help the plant, then i began to eliminate ''fixes''. Now some Grow and Bloom.

Why the two different nutrients manufacturers? Try just one, as they may be interracting negatively with each other. At least this way, you can see if maybe it's something you're adding. But if it hasn't been affecting other plants and strains, doubtful that's it.

The Fossil Fuel came with 3 bottles of the line of the Earth Juice line off ebay.
I was an ok deal and i only need 2 more bottles and i will have the entire line and the reading i did about the Fossil fuel, i thought would help the plant, and it did.

During the winter, I feed set ammounts (quantities) weekly, and water to slight runoff inbetween if necessary. That way I can look at the plant(s) on the next feeding day, and know how much or how little of the nutrient mix to add that week.

Well im learning as im playing here with the nutes Rusty. I like to see my soil dry out a bit so after i do i feed. Then try and go at least days in this 5gal pot then feed or water, depending on how the plant looks. If leaves are up enjoying the lights i will give water and let dry. Next time il feed for sure, but if i see anything that looks different from the last feed/water, i ponder which it will get and most often its water or a weaker feeding. But i have much to learn, i do know that.

But im working on it and soon il have the feeding schedule down to where i know my plants will be happy, its just much easier outside. But thanks for popping in Rusty, this thing is tough to understand. The plant growth thats dying off at least. As far as the feeding, i think thats something i need to figure out for myself, but thanks again




:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

after looking at them for a while I can say I have no idea , but I would want to take a look at the roots to see what is going on, and aslo to try to make this from happening again. but I have no idea mabey the soil is not so good?

Well we will find out at harvest, because its budding nice and has just been put in the 5 gal. But if you look back, you can tell its in much better shape. Plus we are into at least 3 weeks of flower.



Thanks for stopping in :rasta:

[MadSativa]

thats good to hear

[LetsSeeYa]

thats good to hear

Brotha, you have no idea, lol:thumbsup:


I have bought and tried everything, but something worked so on with the budding:thumbsup:

Stop back man, this should get interesting im thinking. I believe il get nice big ass colas as the bud growth seems to join up together, at least i hope:hippy:



:rasta:

[MadSativa]

im sure you will, everything is a learning process so once something is learnd your back on track.

[LetsSeeYa]

im sure you will, everything is a learning process so once something is learnd your back on track.

Well iv grown outside with ok plants, but after half my crop was ripped off, i think a small indoor set up will work best for me. I would like to try an Auto just for fun. The tent is only 2 x 4, but i thought about 8 12'' pots to get a nice Scrog after i have a couple grows under my belt. My only indoor was last year with CFL's, which IMO turned out great. And i used pre ferted soil, but only gave water throughout the grow, worked great. People just always think they need to add something, when everything is already in the soil so they end up with burnt plants, but cant figure out why:wtf:

But i found a hydro shop now so i can get what ever i need. So pots and soil is next on the list which then the tent will be full of 3 kinds of purples and a WW cross. Man i cant wait:thumbsup:, i will have the lights, space, soil, nutes and other materials iv been working on getting for this adventure:thumbsup:and use the cfl's to veg in this mini fridge box.

The Earth Juice line is easy to use, but lets see what it does for my girls. I have FF solubles if im not getting what i want. Id just like to get a monster, then the lights go to the tent and the fun begins:jointsmile:



Thanks for stopping in man, sometime i feel im talking to myself, lol


:rasta:

[MadSativa]

lol nah were listening, but if your gonna reup on some supplies and you got all theinice hydro nutes, I suggest trying coco, the only thing differant thatn coco is you flush the coco before use and when feeding you feed constanlly,, but with lower stenght, so the get about 1/3 nutes every day instead of 1 day nute 2 days water. And calmag is goning to be needed caseu coc has a problem with cal mag. and coco is realy cheep, its cheeper than soil buy alot. theri si good products from botanicare, and canna, and theri are cheeper cocos at home depot and coco from general hydro. these cocos require more work to flush but in the end you have about 15-20 gallons of coco for 7-8 bucks. and if your in a area where the coco gro is like 9 dollars for a 5kg brick then that stuff is great you dont have to flush it as much. in my area cocogro (botanicare) is about 15 bucks and can be reused much better than soil ever could, especialy if you use enzymes and flush

[LetsSeeYa]

lol nah were listening, but if your gonna reup on some supplies and you got all theinice hydro nutes, I suggest trying coco, the only thing differant thatn coco is you flush the coco before use and when feeding you feed constanlly,, but with lower stenght, so the get about 1/3 nutes every day instead of 1 day nute 2 days water. And calmag is goning to be needed caseu coc has a problem with cal mag. and coco is realy cheep, its cheeper than soil buy alot. theri si good products from botanicare, and canna, and theri are cheeper cocos at home depot and coco from general hydro. these cocos require more work to flush but in the end you have about 15-20 gallons of coco for 7-8 bucks. and if your in a area where the coco gro is like 9 dollars for a 5kg brick then that stuff is great you dont have to flush it as much. in my area cocogro (botanicare) is about 15 bucks and can be reused much better than soil ever could, especialy if you use enzymes and flush

I was talking to my hydro guy and he is suggesting that i use Pro Mix. He said its good stuff and he uses it sometime and FF too. He told me to do a side by grow and the Pro Mix would keep right up with the Fox Farm stuff. But this round is going into some cheap soil as the funds went dry. But only to get some growth going to get clones. I have pots to veg and flower pots on there way, plus some calibration solution to check my Ph pen, plus some plugs that will allow me to do 25 clone at a time, which is way more then i need. But its only a Daisy 5 site so i thought they would help me get quality clones and the others i can cull.

So this is where im at, but as time goes by im getting everything needed. The only thing left is soil and this run its going to be a less then id like, but iv made it work up till now and one more go and il have better soil.




Thanks for stopping in again man:rasta: