Nodes growing out then die?

[LetsSeeYa]

Well this clone, now a big ass plant is doing the same thing as it did outside. Some growth looks fine, but other newer growth from the stems grow out and die. Now the original plant from seed did not grow this way, but it was re vegged and this clone was taken before it, the re veg got sick. The lower area of the plant is so thick even tho iv been trimming some of the leave growth that has ravaged by mites away. For what we can see the mites are under control, but you can see the outlined yellowing on the leaves. Its gotta be a deficiency that is getting better, but i worry about the new growth that is coming out and then just goes dead.

Iv done everything i can with this plant and is now in 12/12 for a week, give or take the days i messed up the timer. Any advise that could help this plant look a bit more healthy 0r ideas why nodes are dying, if there nodes, i believe they are. Its just that the way the nodes are so close is what it looked like growing outside, which i thought might grow into big ass colas. But no, it got a fungus, but not before i took this clone. 5 months to get this plant healthy enough to flower, id just like to know if i should give it chuck out the door and just forget about it. Im just frustrated as this plant produces some of the best meds iv ever had:thumbsup:

Any input would be great, i might be paranoid, but a lot of work and cash kept this thing alive. But its just to big now so buds i want buds....



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LetsSeeYa Reviewed by LetsSeeYa on 12-26-2010. Nodes growing out then die? Well this clone, now a big ass plant is doing the same thing as it did outside. Some growth looks fine, but other newer growth from the stems grow out and die. Now the original plant from seed did not grow this way, but it was re vegged and this clone was taken before it, the re veg got sick. The lower area of the plant is so thick even tho iv been trimming some of the leave growth that has ravaged by mites away. For what we can see the mites are under control, but you can see the outlined Rating: 5

[canniwhatsis]

She looks a little N deficient, Perhaps slight nute lockout causing that. Or root bound? Don't know man, just tossing that out there, the top of the pot in the first pic seems a bit small for that much plant.


What do you mean nodes start growing out but then die? Got a closeup of what your trying to describe?

[WashougalWonder]

Agree with CW on all

[gypski]

Maybe, since it was ravaged by mites, and it was in the reveg state, it didn't get to complete the reveg cycle. I know mine that are clones from a plant in the third week of outdoor flowering are similar to yours in shape, and I have some yellowing. My yellowing is the old growth from the regrowth cycle. the regrowth cycle starts out just like a new plant. One leaflet, then the tri-leaflet, 5, 7, 9, etc. (Marijuana Botany, RC Clarke, pp 7 Pre-floral Phyllotaxy) So, some of your yellowing could be from that. The new growth on mine is nice and normal. :twocent:

[MadSativa]

sounds like it is sick with desise, things like this I usualy elminate, instead of quarentin. no need to jepordise the whole room if it is that bad. I cant see anything in the pics but I belive you if you say theri is something theri, theri is somehting theri.

[LetsSeeYa]

sounds like it is sick with desise, things like this I usualy elminate, instead of quarentin. no need to jepordise the whole room if it is that bad. I cant see anything in the pics but I belive you if you say theri is something theri, theri is somehting theri.

The fungus was seen after the clone was taken, i do know shes root bound for sure. Was trying to get through flower without a re pot, but i think the way its growing in this first week, it will cause major problems down the road.

I am waiting for some calibration solution to get my pen checked out. The Ph was high last time we checked it and im sure there are issues, but what you see was much worse. I have flushed her and have been on the mites from day one so this plant has been through a lot. I just want to end the space shes in and hopefully get some buds from her, its crazy great smoke. Then il trim her down to re veg outside, just need to put it in a good hiding spot. Damn thieves know my grow area now, but i thought about putting something there with some pay back in and around the plant, lol. I have a tent on the way so il be growing in it from now on, veg a few in this fridge box i have, its a small one my daughter took to college, but the box will be perfect for clones and mom's.

I have never seen a plant grow with these many bud sites other then this plants mother that was grown outside. But this clone is taking after its mother, this is my worry. The mother grew out bud sites, which made the plants branches look like they the buds would be massive, but just never developed. Now the clone here has not been infected with the fungus like the mother, which never made it. I will have a better idea when my pen is calibrated and a re pot i really didn't want to mess with, but if i can keep her healthy the better yield il get. I think im a bit paranoid, only because the work i put into her to get her healthy, plus the great pain meds she gives.

Thanks for stopin in everyone:rasta:

[Rusty Trichome]

I think Canawhatsis is on the right track.

The buffering in (most) potting mixes lasts about 2 months or so, and she does look too big for her pot. Likely it's time to transplant. You might even consider another root trim, but only as a last resport. (if no larger pot is available)

Did you repeat the mite spray about a week after the first? Any egg cases not killed with the initial spray will sill hatch, and the damage can continue. Be sure to rinse-off the spray after treatments. (the next day should be fine)

Once you take 'em outside, I'd make sure the plants are not in a depression (or 'bowl') so the excess rainwater won't flow twords the plant, but away from it. Perhaps a rock-lined hole, but keep the plant in a 15 gallon pot. (half-buried in the rock-lined hole)

Sure hope you find a nice quiet spot this time. It was heartbreaking watching your plight last summer.

[tikiroom]

Hey LetsSeeYa,

Was wondering what the payback method is? Possibly poison oak all around it?

[LetsSeeYa]

I think Canawhatsis is on the right track.

The buffering in (most) potting mixes lasts about 2 months or so, and she does look too big for her pot. Likely it's time to transplant. You might even consider another root trim, but only as a last resport. (if no larger pot is available)

Rusty, im glad ya popped in guy. This is the clone taken from that NL#5 iv been trying to baby back to health. It is much better and is now in 12/12. I knew it was root bound, or close to it and was re potted about a month ago, gotta look into that. Plant will be put into 5gal tonight, which being in 12/12 should get her through. Of course it will be re vegged and il try it again outside.

Did you repeat the mite spray about a week after the first? Any egg cases not killed with the initial spray will sill hatch, and the damage can continue. Be sure to rinse-off the spray after treatments. (the next day should be fine)

The plant was checked every other day and sprayed at that time. Also 2 no pest bug strips were in the area, which is not big, under stair way. This i knew to not stop as these damn things have come back on to many people so iv been on it from day one and still spray the top of the soil, then remove it 2 days later to keep eggs at bay. But i never did rinse off the plant ever, so i guess il get that done tonight. Right now its all looking like a dead plant. I gave a bit of water to make it to re pot tonight. It will be fine after re pot, its my fault, but i thought the last re pot would do it and used my biggest pot. But that plant wasn't ready IMO to be put into 12/12 and the thing just continued to grow. Now to big for the area and much healthier so i tried to get through without a re pt, but nope.

Once you take 'em outside, I'd make sure the plants are not in a depression (or 'bowl') so the excess rainwater won't flow twords the plant, but away from it. Perhaps a rock-lined hole, but keep the plant in a 15 gallon pot. (half-buried in the rock-lined hole)

Sure hope you find a nice quiet spot this time. It was heartbreaking watching your plight last summer.

Yeah Rusty, i really dont think id grow a plant to not re veg it, just such a waste. Plus waiting for seeds to pop are like watching paint dry. And yeah i would never plant in my grow area as im sure the thieves will be back. So i will grow something they will not miss. They will take it and il plant some place other then there for a few years. But il make some plans that will teach them a good lesson. Im going to find me a bee hive, ha ha. They cant say i put it there and will think its just bad luck. I dont want them to think its me that tried to get them back, they could cause big issues with one call, but running into bee's is not my problem. I am thinking that once the plant is big enough il be reading how to make a bee hive, there's gotta be a way to attract them, the field is filled with them. But then after the plant is big enough for me to leave it alone, then il build a hive in the plant, i got the seed that will grow a big sativa, which will hold the hive. A camera may be there to post the revenge here. Lets hope it works:thumbsup:

But one thing im worried about is the growth near the top as it looks just as its mother did. Almost as its trying to stay in veg as i see flowers growing, yet they did not ever develop into buds. If you look at the top branch growth you will see bud sites growing very close as it looks like giant colas will grow. But the mother never grew this way, but could be the issues the mother had, still unsure. This clone was taken when the mother was perfectly healthy.

Hey LetsSeeYa,

Was wondering what the payback method is? Possibly poison oak all around it?

Buzzzzzzzz ha ha:thumbsup:



Thanks everyone:rasta:

[LetsSeeYa]

She looks a little N deficient, Perhaps slight nute lockout causing that. Or root bound? Don't know man, just tossing that out there, the top of the pot in the first pic seems a bit small for that much plant.


What do you mean nodes start growing out but then die? Got a closeup of what your trying to describe?

My bad bro's it was last re potted 2 months ago Dec. 25th so the re pot tonight will get her up. But man this thing is growing so fast, im going to have to tie the branches up. Its getting really huge, i should have known.

Oh and not nodes, my bad, it looks like pistils that grow out, but turn brown. Same as mom, but looking over her again it wasnt as bad and over all growth is massive. If ya got 50 percent above ya got 50 percent under the plant so re pot should have been done long ago. Time flys trying to fix your fav. strain.

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