Emmies Grow Log - White Widow

[emilya]

WOW!

Wonderful looking girl! ...

Anyway, I am glad I returned before you finished her, she is very impressive indeed!:greenthumb:
A friend of mine just harvested a WW after 52 flowering days under 400w HID, I don't think he got near what you already have.

.... but I wanted to thank you amongst others for inspiring me to commit to this hobby. I have finally posted my first grow log if you would care to check it out. Peace!

Thanks for the wonderful compliments on my garden bkbbudz. I was looking at her the other night trying to estimate how much she had on her and my estimates of the dry weight of what I am seeing even now, 3 weeks out, is making me very happy. But to know that maybe 2/3 of my weight is going to come in this last 3 weeks... it dang near makes my knees weak thinking about it.

I am most honored though that I had something to do with you entering our hobby and hopefully our movement toward legalization. If I had something to do with you finding your happiness here, I am greatly humbled. Thank you.
:thumbsup:

I finally found your grow thread, Emmie...congrats on getting ready for your first harvest!

Glad you stopped by StoneMeadow! I hope you have enjoyed reading about the journey I have taken here. I have learned so much in the last 4 months. Now you know my secret... I'm betting you have many many years of experience over me. After reading my journey to get to this point, now you can see my fascination to see someone like you with so much practical experience growing fruit and vegetables, now starting to grow a weed. And not just that, but starting in Miracle Grow too! The scientist in me can not resist watching how this goes!

Quick update from the garden...
Hey! Its getting hot outside!
And that means it is getting hot in the house too. Egads... all of a sudden I am having problems with heat and proper air exchange in the main tent. Its ok though... I have been working on it.

First, the entire fan/filter arrangement is being redesigned tomorrow. Instead of pulling all the air through a duct across the room to a closet and then pushing it into the filter, we are going to streamline things a lot. The fan is moving to the main tent. It will pull from the filter with a short connecting duct. Output is going immediately out of the tent through another duct, to a home made vent to the outside, stealthily built into the accordian panel on the new air conditioning unit. Total length of run from the filter to the outside... about 10 feet.

This should drastically increase the efficiency of my air exchange. Another duct will run across the ceiling to the veg tent and will suck the smell away from there using the negative pressure in the main tent. If I still have temperature problems, I can use that negative pressure again and use another duct down low from the main tent and just loop it out near the air conditioner to pick up cool air to input directly in the tent. I think I got this licked. I will let you know how it goes. Come on spring time! I'm ready!

I will leave you with a picture of the main bud that I am watching up near the front of the SCRog. Today is day 35. If Hillary is happy, her published data says she will be ready between days 56-63. I am watching closely!
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and for those of you who notice such things... yes, I see the signs of burn here. This didn't happen until adding that molasses with the nutes this last time... I think I will try molasses maybe once a week, with just water next time.

Emmie

[canniwhatsis]

Thanks for the wonderful compliments on my garden bkbbudz. I was looking at her the other night trying to estimate how much she had on her and my estimates of the dry weight of what I am seeing even now, 3 weeks out, is making me very happy. But to know that maybe 2/3 of my weight is going to come in this last 3 weeks... it dang near makes my knees weak thinking about it.

I am most honored though that I had something to do with you entering our hobby and hopefully our movement toward legalization. If I had something to do with you finding your happiness here, I am greatly humbled. Thank you.
:thumbsup:



Glad you stopped by StoneMeadow! I hope you have enjoyed reading about the journey I have taken here. I have learned so much in the last 4 months. Now you know my secret... I'm betting you have many many years of experience over me. After reading my journey to get to this point, now you can see my fascination to see someone like you with so much practical experience growing fruit and vegetables, now starting to grow a weed. And not just that, but starting in Miracle Grow too! The scientist in me can not resist watching how this goes!

Quick update from the garden...
Hey! Its getting hot outside!
And that means it is getting hot in the house too. Egads... all of a sudden I am having problems with heat and proper air exchange in the main tent. Its ok though... I have been working on it.

First, the entire fan/filter arrangement is being redesigned tomorrow. Instead of pulling all the air through a duct across the room to a closet and then pushing it into the filter, we are going to streamline things a lot. The fan is moving to the main tent. It will pull from the filter with a short connecting duct. Output is going immediately out of the tent through another duct, to a home made vent to the outside, stealthily built into the accordian panel on the new air conditioning unit. Total length of run from the filter to the outside... about 10 feet.

This should drastically increase the efficiency of my air exchange. Another duct will run across the ceiling to the veg tent and will suck the smell away from there using the negative pressure in the main tent. If I still have temperature problems, I can use that negative pressure again and use another duct down low from the main tent and just loop it out near the air conditioner to pick up cool air to input directly in the tent. I think I got this licked. I will let you know how it goes. Come on spring time! I'm ready!

I will leave you with a picture of the main bud that I am watching up near the front of the SCRog. Today is day 35. If Hillary is happy, her published data says she will be ready between days 56-63. I am watching closely!
Attachment 273378

and for those of you who notice such things... yes, I see the signs of burn here. This didn't happen until adding that molasses with the nutes this last time... I think I will try molasses maybe once a week, with just water next time.

Emmie

What burn?

When I say my cut is crazy sensitive to feeding,.... this is what I'm talking about!
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As far as the lighter pic,... I couldn't help myself,.... I'm a bit more than a week ahead of you, but I'm having some issues.
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Here's what she looks like all over! :hippy: Not the happiest plant in my room,... but should do me some good.
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[emilya]

What burn?

When I say my cut is crazy sensitive to feeding,.... this is what I'm talking about!
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As far as the lighter pic,... I couldn't help myself,.... I'm a bit more than a week ahead of you, but I'm having some issues.

I love the lighter pic. Gives me a goal to shoot for! Yes, I would be having 17 different types of fits and conniptions if I had leaves that looked like that right now. It is very instructive to see you calm about it however. After I solve my heat problem tomorrow I will be back on track, because right now I am not providing optimal conditions when the temp in my tent climbs up to near 90. We have been fighting this for 2 days. Today, I added the cost of 2 window air conditioning units to the garden's expense column. There are always issues when you are doing something worth while. I think its one of those rules of the universe. I'm not worried... I have good teachers.

Emmie

[rattlingdags]

That's pretty minimal nute burn there (the winking smiley's gone, or I'm blind) *wink* lol.
I almost half wish I could battle heat worries as at least it will mean the weather is warming up - but its cold and miserable.
Hilary's looking fab :thumbsup:

[WashougalWonder]

Where you are now, it would be hard to severely damage Hillary, but, easy on the molasses. If you don't have runoff, don't over feed.

[TANKJR]

Em, since the molasses caused this, and it probably did...I would go to it with straight water between feedings, like you said, and in maybe half the amount of what you used...if the tips of the leaves are turning yellow, that's ALL she can take, and molasses WILL make the roots take up more than normally, so you have to account for that (notice the economics word? )...maybe if you do it this way they have a few days to use some of the nutes, and then adding the molasses will help her take up the rest without burning anything...still overall looking good!

I don't have this problem with my AK, it will take whatever I give it, but again, I'm a minimalist...but I have had some outdoors before that wouldn't take ANY nutes without burning something, so some are definitely more sensitive than others...your doing a good job reading the plants tho, Awesome EM! LOL!

[canniwhatsis]

I love the lighter pic. Gives me a goal to shoot for! Yes, I would be having 17 different types of fits and conniptions if I had leaves that looked like that right now. It is very instructive to see you calm about it however. After I solve my heat problem tomorrow I will be back on track, because right now I am not providing optimal conditions when the temp in my tent climbs up to near 90. We have been fighting this for 2 days. Today, I added the cost of 2 window air conditioning units to the garden's expense column. There are always issues when you are doing something worth while. I think its one of those rules of the universe. I'm not worried... I have good teachers.

Emmie

You will achieve and exceed that by far!!! My plant still has at LEAST 2 more weeks to go,.... and it DOES bulk up right before finish!

I'm not worried about the damage that's been done, I half expected it in fact since I'm running my second of this cut... and am trying to push her. I probably did more harm than good, but I'm still learning this stuff.... and just now trying to get my head around what each individual strain wants!

[StoneMeadow]

Glad you stopped by StoneMeadow! I hope you have enjoyed reading about the journey I have taken here. I have learned so much in the last 4 months. Now you know my secret... I'm betting you have many many years of experience over me. After reading my journey to get to this point, now you can see my fascination to see someone like you with so much practical experience growing fruit and vegetables, now starting to grow a weed. And not just that, but starting in Miracle Grow too! The scientist in me can not resist watching how this goes!

Well, I don't know that I have "many, many years" of experience over you, and certainly not with medijuana, where I am on my first grow ever. It took a few days, but I have now read all the way through your thread. I learned lots (as I'm confident most other readers did...). Certainly enough to know that I will be sticking with clones for the foreseeable future...

I grew up in a farming family and have 5 decades of gardening and raising critters. If nothing else, that gives me a certain reserve of patience and a lack of emotional attachment to particular plants and/or processes. For instance, although it doesn't say why I tranplanted my #4 clone an extra time on my thread, it's because I built a DWC for it to run in parallel with the soil grows. My DWC setup and feeding schedule had worked well with other plants in my sunroom, but #4 started showing signs of nitrogen deficiency within a day or so. When it didn't come around promptly, I unceremoniously yanked it out and put it in soil, where it's recovering nicely and catching up to its sisters.

One big surprise for me is how fast these plants grow. A couple of my girls have burn spots from where they grew an inch or more overnight to reach up and touch hot bulbs/reflectors. Tomatoes, collards and such don't do that in my experience, so I'm having to adjust my expectations. And if you are the archtypical "helicopter mom" to your plants, I am the opposite...a practical farmer who checks them occasionally, but doesn't fuss over them.

At this stage of my experience I also don't spend too much time trying to optimize or too tightly control the variables of light, air, water and soil. I just give them the basics and let their natural inclination to grow like weeds take over from there. That said, it's been fun to read your grow log, and pour over your detailed records and analysis. Like I said, I learned lots and enjoyed it. I hope you have a good enough harvest to keep yourself motivated to do it again!

[emilya]

We are getting close now folks! Day 40 and we have roughly 2-3 weeks left depending on what Hillary says about it.

A quick update on the fan/filter problem. Switching the fan to pull out of the filter instead of pushing into it, along with sending the hot air out of the house has done the trick. Now, even the heat of the 500w of CFL's along with the 8 HO florescents is being neatly handled. The efficiency of the air flow has increased noticeably and I am able to maintain a 79° temp even on a hot day.

I probably should have flushed again last week. Today is a bit over 4 weeks since the last flush and Hillary spoke up the day before yesterday to tell me it was time again. Her last plain water uptake was just a bit slow and when I checked the moisture level before her nute watering time 48 hours later she was not quite ready. This was the sign I was looking for!

I waited an extra 12 hours for her to dry out completely and then gave her the nutes knowing that a flushing was due for today. So today I flushed her again at twice the rate I did the first time. Her normal watering level is 1/2 gal, so I gave her 2 gallons and flushed the salts out of the soil. Fox Farm seems like a very good nutrient program, but heed the warnings out there... the salts do build up, especially if you are giving the maximum amounts that are recommended in the schedule.

So she should be cleaned out again now and I will give her about one more week of nutrients before we head into the last week of flowering before harvest. At that point I plan on flushing her again completely, 9 gallons in a 3 gallon pot, and then maybe one more watering before starting to let her dry out for the harvest.

Things are looking good! Consider the following picture of our sample bud at the edge of the SCRog screen. About 6 inches of bud is sticking up here, but below this are the secondary and tertiary buds that would have made up a large 8-10 inch cola if this plant had been allowed to grow vertically. These additional buds in the SCRog now are separate from the "cola" and are growing upwards by themselves, fulfilling the prediction that in a SCRog you get smaller buds, but more of them. Now after seeing how this works, that makes sense to me.
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Hope you are having a great grow at your house,
Emmie

[WashougalWonder]

In my climate if I gave that much water it would take 3 weeks to dry out.....well it seems that way, at least 2.

Yes, I forgot who it was, but he was right on about the fan and pulling instead of pushing.....Maybe GaGrown?