what happened at the meeting today?

[Colodonmed]

They're trying to make it illegal to change caregiver before your plants are harvested.

How would a patient know that the centers growers have harvested that patients plants?, also doesn't the center run a perpetual harvest?, if so then a patient can never change.

[MtnLionCO]

I never hear patients' advocates pushing for higher growing limits for individuals. All I ever hear is debate about regulation for medical marijuana centers.

I want to be able to grow outdoors on my property, and at least 20 plants.

I believe in Spain this is what people do, not spend hundreds of dollars at dispensaries.

[MtnLionCO]

This sharing of information is just another good reason to stay away from MMCs.

[TheReleafCenter]

wow. it really isn't about the patient is it? this is a shining example.

if you want to worry about harvest dates, etc, you might as well grow.

Listen, there are a lot of people gaming the system out there. If you sign up with someone, it's not unreasonable to say they should get three months to grow your plants. People who shop hop put businesses at risk of having inaccurate plant counts.

How would a patient know that the centers growers have harvested that patients plants?, also doesn't the center run a perpetual harvest?, if so then a patient can never change.

I believe it would be based around a reasonable time frame for a plant to finish. I don't think any center is going to hold your plant hostage and keep you there forever. If they did, I'd report them to the DoR.

[Colodonmed]

Listen, there are a lot of people gaming the system out there. If you sign up with someone, it's not unreasonable to say they should get three months to grow your plants. People who shop hop put businesses at risk of having inaccurate plant counts.



I believe it would be based around a reasonable time frame for a plant to finish. I don't think any center is going to hold your plant hostage and keep you there forever. If they did, I'd report them to the DoR.

agreed, but say a patient assigns a center on day 1, the center now gets that patients plant count going. Day 5 the patient visits the center and finds the medicine the center is now offering for sale is not a strain that benefits the patient and decides that he will take his business elsewhere, with this, are you saying that with the new proposed rule the patient would be held hostage for 3-4 months, the reasonable time frame for a complete grow? Damn, I hope not.

I wonder how many patients are going to leave the registry with these new proposals? If what I read is right, the patients picture, transactions including the amount of medicine purchased and the frequency of purchases will be captured on video and also entered into the database, I doubt if many patients will be willing to put their private lives under such scrutiny. I bet we see a lot more lobbying by these centers to make this a more patient friendly system or they will probably end up all shutting down. Hmm, I wonder

[canaguy27]

I wonder how many patients are going to leave the registry with these new proposals? If what I read is right, the patients picture, transactions including the amount of medicine purchased and the frequency of purchases will be captured on video and also entered into the database, I doubt if many patients will be willing to put their private lives under such scrutiny. I bet we see a lot more lobbying by these centers to make this a more patient friendly system or they will probably end up all shutting down. Hmm, I wonder

Not many will stay. I can't tell you how many people I have talked to that are worried about their name being on a CONFIDENTIAL list. They are just shooting themselves in the foot if it passes. I can't believe the MMCs are not up in arms about this. They will lose patients and the shirts off their backs when they go under. Then the DOR will lose funding and all the dominoes will fall.

[TheReleafCenter]

agreed, but say a patient assigns a center on day 1, the center now gets that patients plant count going. Day 5 the patient visits the center and finds the medicine the center is now offering for sale is not a strain that benefits the patient and decides that he will take his business elsewhere, with this, are you saying that with the new proposed rule the patient would be held hostage for 3-4 months, the reasonable time frame for a complete grow? Damn, I hope not.

I wonder how many patients are going to leave the registry with these new proposals? If what I read is right, the patients picture, transactions including the amount of medicine purchased and the frequency of purchases will be captured on video and also entered into the database, I doubt if many patients will be willing to put their private lives under such scrutiny. I bet we see a lot more lobbying by these centers to make this a more patient friendly system or they will probably end up all shutting down. Hmm, I wonder

Couple things. First, you're not held hostage by an MMC, you can visit whoever you want. You may not get the caregiver benefits from the new place, but it is what it is. It's going to encourage people to be more judicious in who they select as their center/caregiver, which is a good thing.

Second, I don't think that this system is designed to go "Wow, John Doe bought an eighth on Monday and then ANOTHER on Friday!" They don't have time to do that. I think they're looking for people who are buying their maximum two ounces from multiple shops, changing their primary caregiver/center all the time, etc. There has to be some safeguard against those kinds of abuses.

Lastly, who do you think is going to release this information? There are steep penalties, not to mention the law suit you'd be able to file. I keep hearing people talk about this list as if it's going to be published in this Sunday's Denver Post. It's all still held confidentially. I'd jump for joy if the state leaked anything related to status as a patient, same for my lawyer.

[canaguy27]

Princess Leia: The more you tighten your grip, [Colorado], the more [patients] will slip through your fingers.

[Colodonmed]

Not many will stay. I can't tell you how many people I have talked to that are worried about their name being on a CONFIDENTIAL list. They are just shooting themselves in the foot if it passes. I can't believe the MMCs are not up in arms about this. They will lose patients and the shirts off their backs when they go under. Then the DOR will lose funding and all the dominoes will fall.

That's what I mean by the lobbying statement. Without a patient count, how could a center survive, and I for one am not planning on having every transaction I am involved with recorded and stored for any reason whatsoever, no way man!

[HighPopalorum]

The marijuana working group also got a full look at the new safety and sanitation regulations. The new rules likely will include a ban on some pesticides, limits on others and some warnings that pregnant women shouldnâ??t ingest pot products made with some products.

The rules include the nationâ??s first regulations for the safe production of hashish, including requirements that hash producers have exhaust hoods and other safety equipment and must use lab-quality metals and glass, not plastics that are commonly used but can impart dangerous chemicals into the hash.

The group debated whether to ban unsafe chemicals that canâ??t be tested, but regulators proposed going ahead and banning anything unsafe so that pot producers know what they shouldnâ??t be using and patients know what theyâ??re smoking.

â??I think patients have a right to know what theyâ??re ingesting, period,â?� Cook said.

~AP

Cool. :thumbsup: