No more stoned driving -- Colorado is passing THC limits for DUI

[HighPopalorum]

no shit. Road cyclists are nuts. no wonder you're so tightly wound hipop!

heh... I have a few mtbs as well but I didn't include their mileage because I don't know it. I ride everywhere 24/7/365.

[MtnLionCO]

Sounds great, asscore. Please try and keep your drunk driving friends and your drunk driving judge out of Colorado. Drunk drivers kill hundreds of Coloradans every year, so we don't need any more. If Wisconsin has such a laudably lax policy toward driving drunk and high, I suggest you stay there. If I see you driving drunk here, I call the cops with absolutely no exceptions.

And biketripper.... I've got 6.3k this year on my road bike, and drunks are my nemesis! I got run over by one last year to the tune of three ribs, both collar bones, concussion, and various lacerations. It's dangerous out there.

Sorry to hear that, did the driver go to jail?

[Toastyroadie]

People keep claiming marijuana does not impair driving ability... as if I haven't been smoking pot for 20 years! No candid self-assessment of mine could reach that conclusion. When I drive high, I drive distracted. My reaction and decision times are slower, and I'm often more concerned with music, climate or food than I am with the demands of driving. Anecdotally, my observations of other high drivers match my own experience.

As marijuana policy is further liberalized, limits are going to be set on cannabis purchase and use. We cannabis users are going to have to accept the same kinds of time/place/manner restrictions that govern smoking and alcohol use. I don't believe pot should be treated exactly like alcohol, but I do believe people who drive high are behaving irresponsibly. How to test, what limits should be set, and what the punishment should be, I leave to others.

Not sure what you guys are smoking up your way, but I will say (type) it again. In my opinion, and the studies I've seen, there is little to no impairment after smoking MJ.

I have been smoking for 30 yrs and in just the last year increased my smoking to 1.5 grams a day and taking a tincture which amounts to another 3.5 grams a day orally. I can perform any task, including work, driving, what ever it be with no impairment. I feel the best I ever have and even lost weight.

Why is it so hard for some of you to understand that some folks will have no impairment after smoking? There are credible studies to back this up, one from Hartford Hospital. :jointsmile:

Hartford Hospital Study Finds Marijuana Use Has Little Effect On Driving Skills - Courant.com
:smokin:

We can argue all day about whether it's a bad idea for people to drive high. I never said it wasn't.

The point is that you can't really determine impairment by testing alkaloid levels or THC levels in the blood. IT IS NOT A RELIABLE INDICATOR!!!

So, yeah it may be a good idea to outlaw stoned driving, but there is no practical way to get a quantitative idea of how stoned someone is by looking at their blood alkaloid levels.

As was stated a few times already in this thread you could smoke on Monday and still have arrestable alkaloid levels on Wednesday. That is the point of this thread!!

I want to know what advocates of this law think about that!!!

A field sobriety test is really the only fair and rational way to do it without jeopardizing the rights of a all medical users!

Agreed, if they based it off of actual impairment, I'd ace any test, lol. I personally injest a lot of MJ, no impairment at all.

My wife has never interfered with my driving while under the influence of MJ, but after only 3 beers and no smoking MJ she won't let me drive. I have since quit drinking altogether, don't want to no more, ha, ha.:stoned:

[GratefulMeds]

reasonable skills based testing is the only way. levels of cannabis in someone's system are no marker for sobriety.

there is a test already that is determined by the number of nanograms in your system, but it can really only be used to count those nanograms and can show if you have just been burning or smoking for you regular folk. it is faulty though since heavy smokers and edible users we have numbers of the charts compared to light weights that are most likely far more dangerous. :thumbsup::stoned::stoned::jointsmile:

[ds0110]

Until someone is hurt or property is damaged, no crime has been committed.

Any attempt at crime "prevention" is an attempt into reading the future - fortune telling at best, stealing your freedom at worst.

They havent even done enough credible studies on the effects of mj on the brain, much less its effects on driving.

Until they actually study what it does, should they really be telling me that I cant do it?

Because someone else cant handle it, does that mean I should lose the right/freedom? Someone could go to the liquor store with $50, buy a ~gallon of everclear and drink it then die....yet everclear is still legal..bleach for that matter...

(full time delivery driver for 3 years of the past 10 that ive been smoking - no wrecks)

[porone]

:thumbsup:

Until someone is hurt or property is damaged, no crime has been committed.

Any attempt at crime "prevention" is an attempt into reading the future - fortune telling at best, stealing your freedom at worst.

They havent even done enough credible studies on the effects of mj on the brain, much less its effects on driving.

Until they actually study what it does, should they really be telling me that I cant do it?

Because someone else cant handle it, does that mean I should lose the right/freedom? Someone could go to the liquor store with $50, buy a ~gallon of everclear and drink it then die....yet everclear is still legal..bleach for that matter...

(full time delivery driver for 3 years of the past 10 that ive been smoking - no wrecks)

:thumbsup: you can say that again

[copobo]

no wrecks in 20 years here. as a matter of fact, I've only had 1 traffic ticket in the last 20 years, and it was BS.

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

...Did you know it also makes white girls want to have sex with Mexicans?

WHAT!?!?! Did no one else read this! Hahaha! That's some funny sh!t there.

[copobo]

this is excerpted from Rep Levy's newsletter sent 1/1/11. Be sure she hears from you!

Keep that hair short and the phish stickers off the bumpers kids!

State Representative
CLAIRE LEVY
200 E. Colfax Ave., Room 271
Denver, CO 80203
Capitol: 303-866-2578
[email protected]

"I will be sponsoring a bill that was developed by the Commission on Criminal and Juvenile Justice, which created quite a flood of phone calls and e-mail when the Denver Post and Westword ran stories on it. That bill will create a maximum permissible level of THC (the psycho-active component in marijuana) in the blood that is allowed while driving. It would create an objective standard for determining whether a person is driving under the influence of marijuana. The level I will propose, which is supported by a lot of research, is 5 nanograms of THC per milliliter of blood. There has been concern about whether that level will include people who have THC in their systems but whose driving is not impaired. Many people have expressed concern that this kind of law will simply allow law enforcement officials to target medical marijuana patients. The literature indicates that the 5 ng level is sufficiently high that anyone with that amount in their blood by the time testing occurs has ingested a significant amount of marijuana recently. (In contrast, urine testing detects various metabolites, which do stay in the system fairly long.) The officer must have probable cause for stopping the motorist based on their observable driving behavior and a reasonable suspicion that the impaired driving is from marijuana in order to request a blood test. As marijuana use becomes more prevalent and as criminal penalties decrease, I strongly believe the public needs confidence their safety on the roads is not being jeopardized."

[MtnLionCO]

well i guess hipopularum is happy now. ive been looking for his bike so i can run him over (just kidding)