cardholders living together

[futureboy]

Loophole in the law? Can u explain. The law only talks about people as cardholders and how much usable medication and plants that each cardholder can legally have. " Household" does not play any kind of role in the text of the bill because the legislators were not against the theory of a coop. Anyway, if your not comfortable with the rights you have than good for you for doing what you do feel comfortable with. For any of you who don't know, the text of the bill can be found on theRI dept of health website. Please don't think that I am trying to be a dick about this sixfromCC. I just think that people should know what is allowed by the law according to the text and how a lawyer and more importantly a judge would read it. That being said, you are totally right that it would blow to deal with the police being wrong and destroying your grow and fing with your family life until a judge cleared you. Therefore, if Polarboy does his job and gets this info into the hands of our law enforcement officals than you will have no more worries. Just kidding PB

[sixfromCC]

No worries! It's always good to discuss these points. It's how we learn and should never be discouraged. Well if something awful were to happen any of us I hope we all can rally around each other and show we support our efforts to help others. And to show our disgust in jailing people for a plant.

[StillSmokn]

I really appreciate all the feedback guys. The question really came up because me and a friend were planning on getting a place together and i had my two caregiver cards already. In the mix of finding a place he got his patient card so thats where the issue starts... I personally think the law says we could have 36 flowering plants and 24 seedlings along with 7.5 oz useable in the house, of course these are max amounts and a gram or clone over would be serious problems. But i don't see how if he lives in the house 24/7 (is on call for work) and I work from home 75% there should be TOO much room for trouble. I guess like someone mentioned it all comes down to whether the friend will claim them and hold up on his end of the bargain.

I wouldn't however have his plants at my house and say photocopy his card and put it on the wall. This seems as though it could backfire very quickly. But I have heard of many people doing this

Also the changing of addresses on licenses seems to be a good idea as well. I thank everyone again for the awesome feedback as it seems sad but I really do spend alot of time worrying about this.

[sixfromCC]

21-28.6-4


this is from: § 21-28.6-4 Protections for the medical use of marijuana

(c) A primary caregiver, who has in his or her possession, a registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not limited to, civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process with the medical use of marijuana; provided, that the primary caregiver possesses an amount of marijuana which does not exceed twelve (12) mature marijuana plants and two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the department's registration process.

(d) Registered primary caregivers and registered qualifying patients shall be allowed to possess a reasonable amount of unusable marijuana, including up to twelve (12) seedlings, which shall not be counted toward the limits in this section.

[sixfromCC]

this is from the doh pdf of the bill
http://sos.ri.gov/documents/archives...f/DOH/5923.pdf

Registered Primary Caregiver and Registered Qualifying Patient Possession Limits. The following possession limits are established for each registered primary caregiver and registered qualifying patient:
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2.8.1 A registered primary caregiver may possesses an amount of marijuana which does not exceed twelve (12) mature marijuana plants and two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana for each qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the Department's registration process established pursuant to these Regulations.
2.8.2 Notwithstanding the provisions of §2.8.1 of these Regulations, no primary caregiver other than a compassion center shall possess an amount of marijuana in excess of twenty-four (24) mature marijuana plants and five (5) ounces of usable marijuana for qualifying patients to whom he or she is connected through the Department's registration process established pursuant to these Regulations.
2.8.3 A registered qualifying patient may possesses an amount of marijuana which does not exceed twelve (12) mature marijuana plants and two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marijuana.
2.8.4 Registered primary caregivers and registered qualifying patients shall be allowed to possess a reasonable amount of unusable marijuana, including up to twelve (12) seedlings, which shall not be counted toward the limits established in §§2.8.1 and 2.8.3 of these Regulations.

[StillSmokn]

sixfromcc i understand the bill but what i cant find and dont understand is how those limits apply when combining people and cards in the same home. what if the door gets kicked in and my friend is on vacation, he clearly lives there, his bed clothes and everthing (including plants) is there but he isn't and cant be reached what happens?

[sixfromCC]

The law is so damn vague! lol I would not be surprised if you got in trouble. But I would be thrilled and jump for joy if they said your fine; you can go about your business.
But we just will not know unless it happens. So letâ??s call the police on ourselves! just kidding
:stoned:

[futureboy]

These are my last words on this subject because I refuse to subject my self to the paranoia anymore. One of the unfortunate side affects of canabis for some people is just that. I mean come on, you are talking like you should never leave your grow cause you might get busted for not having the plants in a secure facility (no one is there to watch, so how can it be secure). People can go on vacation and leave for work for God sakes! The law is written for your protection, thats it. Follow it, and you will be fine.

I do however suggest that photo copies of your MMJ cards for each patient and caregiver growing plants in that location be posted in plain sight. It would also be a wise idea to have a copy of the bill there as well.

[OldHead09]

Futureboy....A little paranoia goes a long way.....


I say to everyone be as careful as you can whether its one plant or a thousand, remember the first rule of "Grow Club"..... Tell no one of the grow club! Be discreet, be polite and be discreet, and be discreet, and be discreet..........

[futureboy]

Olldhead maybe your screen name, but ODB is your new name in my book. Why? I said I was done with this thread but look how you managed to bring me right back in. Bastard! Anyway being discrete, cautious, responsible, law abiding are of utmost importance. You could probably add a couple of other adjectives to the list. Paranoia may be a motivator for some people to be discrete etc. But it has no place in a sick patients life. Stress just makes people more sick. The laws are clear regarding this topic on caregivers and patients and the plant limits and usable med numbers and if "cooping" were not intended by the legislators than a line of text would have been drafted expressing that caregivers and or patients are not allowed to grow on the same property or put numbers on how many patients/caregivers can grow together.

All that being said, there are lines within the text that are not precise and do allow for some debate and therefore maybe points of contention in a legal case. Two examples are: first, the text related to "seedlings" which says that they are considered all plants that do not have visable flowers. So is a preflower on a plant clearly in a vegetative state being used as a clone mother considered one of your flowering plants? This is a real and debatable problem and in my opinion a person that is being cautious might consider counting every plant as a flowering plant. Example 2, the text states that "usable meds are the dried flowers etc etc. Ok so the scientific def of dry is 0 percent water weight. In that case, most of us are never using "usable" meds. Properly cured meds still contain a small amount of water. So the intelligent patient or caregiver covers their back by considering usable meds that which can be smoked.