cardholders living together

[StillSmokn]

I am a caregiver for 3 people, I am allowed to have 24 mature plants here in ri as far as i know. I am considering letting one of my patients live at my house, of course with him comes his 12 plants. So I am wondering, is this legal? Are we opening ourselves up for trouble even if we are both seemingly "Legal"?
The issue is whether or not two people can have their cards in the same home.

ANY information, experiences or anything to do with this issue would be a great help. I just cant be the first person to have this problem and the laws are so vague here.

Thank you very much for your help guys!!

StillSmokn Reviewed by StillSmokn on 12-05-2010. cardholders living together I am a caregiver for 3 people, I am allowed to have 24 mature plants here in ri as far as i know. I am considering letting one of my patients live at my house, of course with him comes his 12 plants. So I am wondering, is this legal? Are we opening ourselves up for trouble even if we are both seemingly "Legal"? The issue is whether or not two people can have their cards in the same home. ANY information, experiences or anything to do with this issue would be a great help. I just cant be Rating: 5

[oldhaole]

But like everything else you best cover your bases. I would have your roommate use your address to receieve mail. I would also get him to change the address on his Dirvers Licence to yours. Or register to vote in your district. You know, some paper trail that shows he lives there.

Lastly I would go over your state laws. Just because I can get away with it doesn't mean you can. It should be under co-habitating patients.

[hghflyrjd1]

From what i understand .Yes you can do what u plan BUT each CAREGIVER must have there plants separate from each other.EXAMPLE you cant have a room with all 24 of your plants and have your NEW roommates plants Also in your room.I would make separate areas for each of you and have a sign on each room door stating whos and what is there.and yes change all addresses to the new apartment also.and license

[sixfromCC]

I stay on a side of caution with these totals and stick with what I know is safe. It is not a matter of how many cards there are in one property. It goes by household. example: I have a cg card. my wife has a cg card. So that means we can only have 12 veg and 12 flowering. But if I get a second cg card. We then can go up to 12 veg and 24 flowering.

So with that in mind I would say your walking a fine line... west warwick had a raid on a medical cannabis co-op and the out come we have not seen. But what we know is their plants, meds are gone.

[futureboy]

SixfromCC I have to say that I seem to always agree with what you say, although on this topic I have to disagree. I have read the law, spoken with the Joanne from RIPAC in addition to a lawyer and the way the law reads does not mention any thing about "household". Each caregiver and patient living on a property are allowed to grow and have usable limits independently of one another. If you are:

Caregiver of 1 patient: 12 Flowering and 12 seedlings 2.5 ounces of usable meds

Caregiver of 2-5 patients: 24 flowering and 12 seedlings 5 ounces of usable meds

Patient: 12 flowering and 12 seedlings 2.5 ounces of usable

So that means as a caregiver of one patient each (you and your wife) you are in fact legally allowed to grow 24 flowering and 24 seedlings on your property together and have 5 ounces of usable meds available to your patients. To take this one step further, an individual can be a patient and caregiver, and under the law this person can have 12 and 12 plus 2.5 usable as a patient in addition to the legal caregiver numbers. The only time a "household" or single property come into play is when the number of plants exceeds 100. The Feds can become involved at this point. Which if you do the math is possible for a husband and wife couple whom in the rare case both happen to be patients and caregivers of more than 2 patients.

All that being said there are a number of problems that can arise for all parties that participate in a Coop. From my understanding, the case involving the Coop sixfromCC mentions is facing two problems: 1) more than 100 plants were on the property 2) not all of the legal members who "had plants on the property" claimed them (maybe they had grows else where?).

If you trust the person and you don't have more than 100 plants on the property than you are all good.

[sixfromCC]

Ya know, thats what I thought. If I wanted to challenge the law I would go for it and run 24 veg and 24 flowering. But for now, I want my grow rooms to represent what would be a no brainer for police if they had to come in and investagate me.

Know what would be great? A mag like 1000watts creating a Know The Law edition and mail tons to the state police and state officals.

[polarboy]

Ya know, thats what I thought. If I wanted to challenge the law I would go for it and run 24 veg and 24 flowering. But for now, I want my grow rooms to represent what would be a no brainer for police if they had to come in and investagate me.

Know what would be great? A mag like 1000watts creating a Know The Law edition and mail tons to the state police and state officals.

You know you are write sixfromcc since as im a reporter for 1000watts i will pass the info on. look in the future issues for that very article and you know it might not be a bad idea to drop a few off at the local and state police. If any one has ideas for an article for the magizine can drop us a line at 1000watts.net or start a thread here and as i comme here to take a look to see if any one needs help i will take all ideas and pass them on. till next time.

keep tokken

[futureboy]

In my opinion the laws set forth by our compassionate RI legislative body are straight forward and concise for the most part. There is no need to feel in anyway that you are challenging the system. The laws were written taking into account the amount of meds and plant numbers neccessary to produce enough meds on a consistent basis for the average caregiver/patient. If you notice it is the cardholders who are a doing things that they shouldn't be doing who are ending up in news stories and making a bad impression on the public about the program. In fact, Polarboy here is an idea, have a section in the mag that people can write in and explain how MMJ has made there life better.

[sixfromCC]

You know you are write sixfromcc since as im a reporter for 1000watts i will pass the info on. look in the future issues for that very article and you know it might not be a bad idea to drop a few off at the local and state police. If any one has ideas for an article for the magizine can drop us a line at 1000watts.net or start a thread here and as i comme here to take a look to see if any one needs help i will take all ideas and pass them on. till next time.

keep tokken

awesome polarboy! I know I missed the Dec 4th deadline but could you get Drew to call me? he has my number.

[sixfromCC]

In my opinion the laws set forth by our compassionate RI legislative body are straight forward and concise for the most part. There is no need to feel in anyway that you are challenging the system. The laws were written taking into account the amount of meds and plant numbers neccessary to produce enough meds on a consistent basis for the average caregiver/patient. If you notice it is the cardholders who are a doing things that they shouldn't be doing who are ending up in news stories and making a bad impression on the public about the program. In fact, Polarboy here is an idea, have a section in the mag that people can write in and explain how MMJ has made there life better.

You are right with your opinion. But so to say, a police officer or the fire department would have to enter my house because of a unrelated event. At that point I would have to prove my grow is for medical reasons. My wife is at work and can't make it home to say she is also a card holder. I do stand a chance of going to jail, kids taking away, plants destroyed. Patients go without cannabis....
When the police come you can't walk around with them to tell them what is what can you? The videos I saw from Steve Kubby's arrest which is now off-line. It was on his Pot-tv News show in 2002/2003. It showed police picking clones up by the stem. If the soil came up with the cut they counted it. If the cutting came out of the dirt they did not count it. His total plants were way over the 99 mark set by Californiaâ??s medical cannabis law which was posted on the door of his grow room.

At that point wouldnâ??t I or someone else have to challenge what to me (and most likely the state police) looks like a loop hole in the law?