Here are two shots of what I'm trying to clone. You can see they aren't what I would call mature stems, but smaller lower stems on my ladies on another thread. They're not what I'd call perky, but they are rooting. the larger leaves are keeping it going that's why they are yellowing. As they yellow, I remove them. This is week two beginning today. I don't know if you can see the new growth or the smaller growth areas that are alive and kicking!!! Once they take, they will be bushes!!! imp: