First grow any input would be greatly appreciated!

[captainendoe]

A buddy of mine gave me some widow and afgahn kush stupidly of me i rushed home and germinated all of then gave it a half ass thought about what im going to do with them and its been a working progress ever since but im pretty stoked about growing. at this point I just want to get seed out of my best female so i can start from scratch now that i have a killer plan. But i also wanna make money so i can have some start up funds so i want these plants to have the best chance possible. but all the plants have tips bending down, yellow and/or brown spots on some leaves. Ive come to the conclusion that the yellowing is from a lack of nutes and the brown spots is the next step of the malnourishment. I am also guessing that the tips drooping is from lack of light but all of the plants seem to have yellowed tips.

I haven't been adding any extra nutes but i have been feed with fish water from my 50 gallon tank. that water is ph 6.5. Oh and when I started this project i only used tank water every other watering but now im going to try to up to every time.

I have been using a two different soils I started out with some random mg that feeds plants up to six months with time released nonsense but after i got serious about feed i switched to fafard complete potting soil 0.09-0.04-0.06 . The bag says this soil feeds plants 3-4. Also it looks like this stuff is well mixed with perlite. my goal is to transplant when they start yellowing with fresh soil.

I started out with a 4ft shop light with two plant and aquarium ge bulbs that are 2700k. As soon as i read my first grow guide i found 65k and had them both in the closet with about five plants. since then i bought one 65k t5 light and fixure from the local garden center. So now i have the one shop light and the t5 light over a insultaion foam box i made out of duck tape. which was pretty neat till i tried to take it up stairs cause the basement was getting too cold, now it just pretty ghetto.

I think you guys are pretty much caught up. And new guys learn from my mistakes failing to plan is planning to fail!!!

captainendoe Reviewed by captainendoe on 11-25-2010. First grow any input would be greatly appreciated! A buddy of mine gave me some widow and afgahn kush stupidly of me i rushed home and germinated all of then gave it a half ass thought about what im going to do with them and its been a working progress ever since but im pretty stoked about growing. at this point I just want to get seed out of my best female so i can start from scratch now that i have a killer plan. But i also wanna make money so i can have some start up funds so i want these plants to have the best chance possible. but all the Rating: 5

[captainendoe]

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[captainendoe]

oh yea some guy gave me four really nice widows and my ghetto setup in the crushed them so i tried to take some clones and repair what i could and force everything back into veg after being flowering for two weeks. That was before i found this beautiful heaven of a forum and learned that the plants still grow pretty vigorously through the flowering stage... broke my heart... the plants made it but the clones did not.

[Slevinkal]

oh yea some guy gave me four really nice widows and my ghetto setup in the crushed them so i tried to take some clones and repair what i could and force everything back into veg after being flowering for two weeks. That was before i found this beautiful heaven of a forum and learned that the plants still grow pretty vigorously through the flowering stage... broke my heart... the plants made it but the clones did not.

Better luck next time man :thumbsup:

[Weezard]

oh yea some guy gave me four really nice widows and my ghetto setup in the crushed them so i tried to take some clones and repair what i could and force everything back into veg after being flowering for two weeks. That was before i found this beautiful heaven of a forum and learned that the plants still grow pretty vigorously through the flowering stage... broke my heart... the plants made it but the clones did not.

No worry!
Lessons learned the hard way never fade.
My first grow went swimmingly:thumbsup:
So, I didn't learn squat.

To poorly paraphrase;
"What we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly."

Next 2 grows went tits-up.
Actually ran out of meds.

Hadda knuckle down and take my own advice.
Read 'til dey bled! :stoned:
Den I read through da bleed.

Allatime mo' betta now!:jointsmile:
Good thing I've got beautiful friends to carry me through.

Bet you have a good plan in place for the next grow, yah?

Aloha.
Plant 'em if ya gottem.

Weezard

[captainendoe]

yea im going hydro next time and im slowly starting to buy the products now to lesson the cost burden.

[Slevinkal]

yea im going hydro next time and im slowly starting to buy the products now to lesson the cost burden.

Awesome idea!

I started out rough...

ended too soon too

IDK if you found em yet or not so... Check the book link in my sig, lots a great info there

[captainendoe]

all the new growth on my best widow girl is curling down and sagging its looking a lot like over watering symptoms but i didn't change the schedule or water more then usual. I just transplanted a couple of weeks ago so i dont think its malnourished or root bounded. however i did pick some of the buds off in hope to encourage some more growth out of her the day before i watered her. Another of my f*ck ups was I only let the water sit out for a couple of hours before watering her too. So I'm worried i poisoned her with chlorine and florid.

Do you guys think it was the water or picking the buds off or both?

[Weezard]

all the new growth on my best widow girl is curling down and sagging its looking a lot like over watering symptoms but i didn't change the schedule or water more then usual. I just transplanted a couple of weeks ago so i dont think its malnourished or root bounded. however i did pick some of the buds off in hope to encourage some more growth out of her the day before i watered her. Another of my f*ck ups was I only let the water sit out for a couple of hours before watering her too. So I'm worried i poisoned her with chlorine and florid.

Do you guys think it was the water or picking the buds off or both?

It's probably not the water cap'n.
The amounts of Chloramine and Fluoride in tap water don't add up to a flea fart inna windstorm.
And the trace amounts of Halomethanes actually benefit our bushes by keeping da bad bugs at bay.

Forget the old wives tale 'bout letting the water sit.
Dat's Bullspit!

Either draw your water from an aerated faucet, or half-fill a jug and shake it to get as much air into it as you can then water your plants straight away.

Sounds like overwatering from your description, but....

I'm not sayin' "you gave them to much water".

Jus' sayin' their water needs are not constant.
It's a balancing act.
And the symptoms you describe are not indicating too much water.
I grow trees with the roots fully submerged in water.
Long as I bubble air through it.


When you nip terminal buds, the plant goes into shock and stops growing for a day or so.

If you water as usual right after you "nip", the plant will suffer because it is not moving the water through the way it normally does.
So, the water stays in the soil and goes flat. (Loses it's dissolved Oxygen)
Just like it does when you "let it sit".

What you are seeing is the symptoms of suffocation.
When the plant stops "drinking", the water sits inna pot until there is no air left in it.

As for how to fix it?

First, nail the diagnosis.
Pictures would help.
Because.

Without solid information, this is all speculation.

Aloha,
Weezard

[captainendoe]

I have to wait to get my phone fixed, its my ownly camera but i did try to pour it into another bottle back and forth to get some air the water but im not sure it fixed it but it seems to help. I would think it would bounce right back ugh?