Best way to cure? New to this

[Slevinkal]

One last thing that I notice consistently is that when curing in Mason Jars with the two-part lid, when I open the jars to vent them, the lid is sealed a bit because the gases working in the jar create a mini vacuum. I don't know if anyone else has paid attention to this, but its always done it for me. When it pretty much stops being slightly sealed, I know I don't have to keep venting them as often. And I try a bud from the jar!!

Hmmmm. That's interesting. I've never cured fresh nugs but a few bags ago I got some really really green stuff. We store everything in mason jars, little or big, and I've never had a jar attempt to vacuum seal itself until the really green stuff. Every time that jar was opened for the first week or so the flat part had to be popped off. It made me wonder but now I prob got a plausible answer. :thumbsup:

[bullyslayer]

"overly dried buds lose potency quickly"

THC isn't water soluble so the loss of water would do exactly NOTHING to it.

i don't claim to know the science behind it as i am just a farmer but experience and common sense tells me that more than just water leaves the buds when overly dried . i stand by my statement and challenge you to put some "crumble into dust" dryed bud in a jar and save it next to a jar of identical but properly cured buds for 2-3 months then let us know if there is a difference in potency. :thumbsup:.subcribed and waiting.:rasta:

[khyberkitsune]

i don't claim to know the science behind it as i am just a farmer but experience and common sense tells me that more than just water leaves the buds when overly dried . i stand by my statement and challenge you to put some "crumble into dust" dryed bud in a jar and save it next to a jar of identical but properly cured buds for 2-3 months then let us know if there is a difference in potency. :thumbsup:.subcribed and waiting.:rasta:

Actually, Water is all that goes out. Volatility at a given temperature and atmospheric pressure. THC and other cannabinoids are nowhere near volatile until they hit their vaporization point at sea level. Water, on the other hand, sublimates right into the atmosphere at room temperature, no matter the height.

There is no point to conducting an experiment of this nature. For one, you couldn't control the sample weights well enough to get an accurate comparison, and not every part of a bud will do the same thing over and over every single time. There are too many variables to control to make it possible to do reliably. There's no need, as a quick call to (1-800-445-6737) OR
and asking for the MSDS on water and THC (yes, they have it) will show you the exact same thing I've told you, if you know how to read one of those charts.

[GetThisOrDie]

THC, or any cannabanoid for that matter, does not evaporate. Water does. Crumbly dry bud=very little to no water present.

One time I forgot about a nug in a drawer. Was there for maybe close to 3 months. It was powdery and dry as a bone. I put some flame to it and it was hard to smoke but it got me blazed big time. Potency was just fine



About that sealing jar lids. I have had that happen and believe its just the moisture that builds up inside the jar during the cure. Kinda makes the lid stick because of that rubbery material around the rim. Just my take on it.

[bullyslayer]

Actually, Water is all that goes out. Volatility at a given temperature and atmospheric pressure. THC and other cannabinoids are nowhere near volatile until they hit their vaporization point at sea level. Water, on the other hand, sublimates right into the atmosphere at room temperature, no matter the height.

There is no point to conducting an experiment of this nature. For one, you couldn't control the sample weights well enough to get an accurate comparison, and not every part of a bud will do the same thing over and over every single time. There are too many variables to control to make it possible to do reliably. There's no need, as a quick call to (1-800-445-6737) OR
and asking for the MSDS on water and THC (yes, they have it) will show you the exact same thing I've told you, if you know how to read one of those charts.

you are copping out behind bull s**t or overthinking this--control the sample weights??? i find it very easy to roll two joints the same size and than take 2 or 3 hits off of them . it is a simple experiment, dry some bud crispy , cure some moist ,wait a couple months , smoke them , see witch is better. BTW water has no smell and yet most of us can smell our buds drying and curing.something[mostly gases] has gone out of the bud and entered the atmosphere .also it is not necessary for THC to reach its vaporization point to start degrading , all it needs is time and air. the point of all this is that you imply that drying your buds crispy has no detrimental effect on the smoke and i feel it does.

[khyberkitsune]

you are copping out behind bull s**t or overthinking this--control the sample weights??? i find it very easy to roll two joints the same size and than take 2 or 3 hits off of them . it is a simple experiment, dry some bud crispy , cure some moist ,wait a couple months , smoke them , see witch is better. BTW water has no smell and yet most of us can smell our buds drying and curing.something[mostly gases] has gone out of the bud and entered the atmosphere .also it is not necessary for THC to reach its vaporization point to start degrading , all it needs is time and air. the point of all this is that you imply that drying your buds crispy has no detrimental effect on the smoke and i feel it does.

You apparently aren't too familiar with the fine details of VARIANCE that can occur even within a square millimeter from a different section of the same bud.

Nor are you familiar with the chemical nature of THC. If being dry as hell made it suck, why would hash be consistently dried to powdery consistency before being purposely crushed and exposed to oxygen?

Also, water curing = superior to any air curing solution, and sun curing > superior to all. You don't know about either solution, do you?

[bullyslayer]

You apparently aren't too familiar with the fine details of VARIANCE that can occur even within a square millimeter from a different section of the same bud.

:jawdropper:a pot seed is app 2 to 6 millimeters (1/16 to 3/16 inch) in length and 2 to 4 millimeters (1/16 to 1/8 inch) in maximum diameter.WTF has that little amount you listed got to do with anything?it is not even enough for a vaporizer .

Nor are you familiar with the chemical nature of THC. If being dry as hell made it suck, why would hash be consistently dried to powdery consistency before being purposely crushed and exposed to oxygen?

:S2:stop saying such DA things --we dry BUDS and than sift the trics out--this is called kif--if left like this most of its potency would be gone in a year--so we press it [sometimes with heat , sometimes without] to REMOVE THE AIR.you've never made hash have you?

Also, water curing = superior to any air curing solution, and sun curing > superior to all. You don't know about either solution, do you?

your links show you air drying and then curing in jars, let us see some pics of your superior "water cured" buds. also it takes hundreds of pounds to do a proper sun cure --perhaps you could share your method for doing a few oz's?and please don't tell us to jar it and stick it in the sun--that is called sweat curing and it sucks almost as bad as water curing. you haven't actually cured much weed have you ?

[gypski]

Kif is prepared for smoking by stripping the leaves from the dried female branches and carefully pulling the floral clusters from the stems. The seeds and small stems are removed, and the flowers are chopped finely with a sharp knife., Hashish!, Robert Connell Clarke, pp 178.

Kif and hashish are two different preparations. :thumbsup:

[bullyslayer]

CUT AND PASTE HUH heres one for ya

Kief
By Ed Rosenthal - Wednesday, March 9 2005
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What is kief and how is it made?
What is kief? How is it made?
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The term "kief" has been used in Morocco for the powder made from glands (sometimes termed trichomes) that have been sifted or rubbed from the buds and leaves of the plant. The term is also used for a smoking mixture composed of the gland powder or possibly chopped hash mixed with finely chopped tobacco. This blend was traditionally smoked in waterpipes but now cigarettes and smaller pipes are popular there, too.

In North America and Europe, kief is also described as the glands of the mature female plant. Typically, it is made from "trash" ? the leaves and misshapen buds of little commercial value. They contain a considerable number of glands that are easily removed.

Kief powder refers to this loose collection. It can pressed to make hash using presses with heated iron or plates, although this is not the only method by which hash is made. In the US kief is sometimes pressed into hash, but it is more likely to be smoked or vaporized alone or used to top some bud in a pipe.

Kief can be collected by rubbing leaves or buds over a fine silkscreen or stainless steel mesh screen. The glands are pulled from the vegetative material and drop through the screen to be collected.

The Pollinator, invented by Holland's Mila Jansen, revolutionized kief making. Large amounts of leaf can be processed with little human labor. The machine consists of a box enclosing a rotating drum made from silk or stainless mesh. As the drum rotates the leaf tumbles against the mesh and glands fall off.

Kief is prized because of its high concentration of glands and its smoothness when it is inhaled. Needless to say, there are many qualities of kief depending mostly on the qualities of the marijuana that was screened. Like olive oil pressing, the screening process is also a major determinant of quality

.you like Robert Connell Clarke ? from marijuana botany page 114

If some water content is not maintained, the resins will lose potency and the clusters will disintegrate into a useless powder exposed to decomposition by the atmosphere

.i believe what he is trying to say is OVER DRIED BUD WILL LOSE POTENCY .IMHO the op needs to jar his pot ASAP!!!!!