Quote Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
I hate to revive this (been away for a while), but WOW. Holy WOW. I take it you make over a hundred grand a year to make a bold statement like that

Let's strip away all the rhetoric and acknowledge that it comes down to this: under private health care, the wealthy get top-notch treatment while the poor are out in the street. It's that simple--and to Islandborn's critique of Europe, socialist countries like Denmark and Finland (which I HAVE been to, by the way) are good, healthy, humane societies where everyone gets treated whatever their level of income (Denmark's minimum wage is about the equivilent of 18 bucks an hour, by the way), so put aside the "my country, right or wrong" mentality and maybe consider other options. 'Have you ever been to those countries?'....yes, I live in one, and have been to many. The standard of living in the U.S. is among the lowest in the industrialized world, bub.
cannabis, sorry about that, I was just kidding around, taking aim back at your remark about one of my neighboring States, which struck me as really random so I shot back. not very nice of me.

but since you did ask, no I make under 100K but I do alright and I have always had great health care paid for by my employer for the simple the fact that I have always worked very hard every single day and do outstanding work, and therefore deserve it. :jointsmile: (edit: that is, I deserve to have my employer pay for it. that is not to say those that can't work don't deserve good health care, too) I was just remarking about my own personal experience with our health care system.

I'm not knocking others health care, I'm sure you have a good one, too, if you are happy with it. I really have no interest in getting in this debate. I'll let Island take over from here. :jointsmile: