Nutrient Lock ?

[Charbud]

Another thing phatjay, want to have a little comp ? who can get the most bud of a plant grown in a little white party cup ? Was going to do it anyway for my next grow for a laugh, would be great to see your results. Char

[PhatJay]

Ye i think i chose sum pretty shitty strains to be honest. I get bowled over my the descriptions and the names which get me all excited and so i have to grow them and i never research the strains. Oh well, learnt my lesson now ! And yes high yielding is the idea for the next grow! sticking with barneys seeds, definately didnt fail me with the vanilla kush.

I don't think the strains you picked were bad, it just seems to me that the most potent strains tend to have much smaller yields. I personally don't think the extra strength justifies the weight loss. Especially on small personal grows like ours.

Mate that bonsai is nuts. I still dont get how you yield so much bud of your girls using cfls.. i got an oz of my vanilla kush which was an lst, vegged for 5 weeks or something and you can do that with a bonsai plant ! madness..what strain was it ? good smoke ? anything on the go at the moment ?

It was the same strain I used in my 1st 2 grows, I reckon I would have got over the ounce but the cuttings came with thrips, which probably reduced the crop. It is a good yielder and a really nice smoke, but it is very spindly and collapses under the weight of the buds.I decided to go with better genetics this time round cos I was having to use string to hold the branches/buds up. I have also moved up to 2x250w instead of the 125's.

I am growing 4 White Rhino from Greenhouse Seeds atm. The quality of the genetics is mind blowing, they look amazing. I also have another bonsai on the go, also WR but from a cutting (the genetics are nowhere near as good as the ones from GH).

Another thing phatjay, want to have a little comp ? who can get the most bud of a plant grown in a little white party cup ? Was going to do it anyway for my next grow for a laugh, would be great to see your results. Char

That sounds like fun :thumbsup: I'm up for that. If you are planning to grow bonsai, I think you need to grow from cuttings instead of seeds. The plants that grow from seeds take time to sexually mature and you have to wait until the nodes start alternating before you can consider going into flower. Cuttings are ready to go once they have a few leaves/nodes.

[Charbud]

I don't think the strains you picked were bad, it just seems to me that the most potent strains tend to have much smaller yields. I personally don't think the extra strength justifies the weight loss. Especially on small personal grows like ours.

I have to agree with you there although i do like weed that can make me take a seat ! I also like to try as many strains as possible, i find the names really enticing but ye im going to do more research...for example i found my cream caramel seed under the high yield section of the website i buy my seeds from..suprise suprise !!

It was the same strain I used in my 1st 2 grows, I reckon I would have got over the ounce but the cuttings came with thrips, which probably reduced the crop. It is a good yielder and a really nice smoke, but it is very spindly and collapses under the weight of the buds.I decided to go with better genetics this time round cos I was having to use string to hold the branches/buds up. I have also moved up to 2x250w instead of the 125's.

Nice to see the move from 125s to 250s, only better things could come of that. I think i might replace one of my bulbs because apparently the deteriorate over time, like the lumens get lower ? and ive used it for 2 grows so may buy a new one after this one. Thrips ?? Im guessing a disease that you had to cut off but sorry to hear that either way...loss of weight is never a gudden. What was the strain you used ? sorry if you have told me already..bad memory..but it has definitely done you well from what i have seen !

I am growing 4 White Rhino from Greenhouse Seeds atm. The quality of the genetics is mind blowing, they look amazing. I also have another bonsai on the go, also WR but from a cutting (the genetics are nowhere near as good as the ones from GH).

I do think the more money you spend on the seeds definately helps. Like my vanilla kush was about 6.50, not breaking the bank but from a quality seed bank as are yours. That white rhino will be nice, i had some super lemon haze from greenhouse when i was in amsterdam...dropped half the spliff in the while rolling it but didnt want to waste anymore so i just rolled what was left..blew me away...v.potent. getting a bit ahead of myself but i was thinking next grow 4 x white skunk, [pineapple chunk, violator kush, blue cheese] - barneys and silver bubble. Do you rekon it would be better to focus on 4 like you do and go for higher yield ? My logic behind the 8 plants is to have 4 nice strains then 4 cheap plants to make give me some quanitity...think its going to back fire this time round but whats your opinion ? maybe 2 pineapple 2 violator or just 4 of all the same ?

That sounds like fun :thumbsup: I'm up for that. If you are planning to grow bonsai, I think you need to grow from cuttings instead of seeds. The plants that grow from seeds take time to sexually mature and you have to wait until the nodes start alternating before you can consider going into flower. Cuttings are ready to go once they have a few leaves/nodes.

This is true but i havent got space for a mother and to make clones. Hopefully in the future i will but atm not really an option. They wouldnt have to be bonsai, well obviously small but more to do with the tiny pot and how the roots react and it must just look really weird..! But yeh, im looking forward to that aswell, probably more so than my other plans :rastasmoke:

[PhatJay]

I think i might replace one of my bulbs because apparently the deteriorate over time, like the lumens get lower ? and ive used it for 2 grows so may buy a new one after this one.

Yeah they do deteriorate and so do other types of bulbs.

"CFLs produce less light later in their lives than when they are new. The light output decay is exponential, with the fastest losses being soon after the lamp is first used. By the end of their lives, CFLs can be expected to produce 70â??80% of their original light output" (taken from wikipedia).

I plan to use mine for at least half of their 10,000 hour life. But I'm a tight ass when it comes to money.

Thrips ?? Im guessing a disease that you had to cut off but sorry to hear that either way...loss of weight is never a gudden. What was the strain you used ? sorry if you have told me already..bad memory..but it has definitely done you well from what i have seen !

Thrips are little bugs that suck the sap of plants, they were pretty easy to get rid of tbh. The strain was of unknown origin. The genetic line is dead now, so even if I wanted to, I can't grow that strain again.

getting a bit ahead of myself but i was thinking next grow 4 x white skunk, [pineapple chunk, violator kush, blue cheese] - barneys and silver bubble. Do you rekon it would be better to focus on 4 like you do and go for higher yield ? My logic behind the 8 plants is to have 4 nice strains then 4 cheap plants to make give me some quanitity...think its going to back fire this time round but whats your opinion ? maybe 2 pineapple 2 violator or just 4 of all the same ?

I think it is going to be down to personal choice, but growing a mix of high yielding and high potency plants seems like a good idea to me. Growing in pots means you can easily negate problems like different heights or the different nutrient needs, so mixing the varieties isn't going to give you any major problems. I want to be able to grow enough so that I don't have to buy weed anymore. Because I have limited space and lighting that means high yielders for me. I guess it also depends on how much you smoke.

I do intend to try "fancier" strains in the future because I really like fruity weed. I'm thinking a good old fashioned Grapefruit or a Strawberry cough (I have tried lemon haze - smells nice but I didn't like the taste). I am happy with the hit I get from so called "B" strains (they were A strains not that many years ago).

[Charbud]

[quote=PhatJay]Yeah they do deteriorate and so do other types of bulbs.

"CFLs produce less light later in their lives than when they are new. The light output decay is exponential, with the fastest losses being soon after the lamp is first used. By the end of their lives, CFLs can be expected to produce 70â??80% of their original light output" (taken from wikipedia).

I plan to use mine for at least half of their 10,000 hour life. But I'm a tight ass when it comes to money.

Thrips are little bugs that suck the sap of plants, they were pretty easy to get rid of tbh. The strain was of unknown origin. The genetic line is dead now, so even if I wanted to, I can't grow that strain again.

Sad that you didnt know. She definitely served you well !

I think it is going to be down to personal choice, but growing a mix of high yielding and high potency plants seems like a good idea to me. Growing in pots means you can easily negate problems like different heights or the different nutrient needs, so mixing the varieties isn't going to give you any major problems. I want to be able to grow enough so that I don't have to buy weed anymore. Because I have limited space and lighting that means high yielders for me. I guess it also depends on how much you smoke.

Ye same, i would like to grow enough that i dont have to buy any but that requires constant growing which i do plan to do. Im looking for high yielders now, definitely seems like the best idea. The only problem with growing so many plants at once is that they all grow into each other so the leaves at the top block light getting to lower down the plant. Similair to the rainforest i suppose, the canopy stopping sunlight reaching the ground. So im thinking maybe 4 next time so the light can penetrate further. Going to get 2 from barneys and 2 from greenhouse so they should be pretty solid i nterms of genetics.

I do intend to try "fancier" strains in the future because I really like fruity weed. I'm thinking a good old fashioned Grapefruit or a Strawberry cough (I have tried lemon haze - smells nice but I didn't like the taste). I am happy with the hit I get from so called "B" strains (they were A strains not that many years ago).

I also like fruity weed. I also had strawberry cough in dam, nice high to have during the day, not too heavy. I do hear that its very gangly and grows all over the place so many an lst or something ? I would prefer to have more of a b strain than a smaller amount of an a strain. Sometime a strains are just a bit too much...like having a shot of vodka or having a shot of absinthe !

[bullyslayer]

tell me if i got this right----2 to 3 weeks after your beans sprout you transplanted into compost/perlite and moved them into a cold drafty loft and started flowering.you've allowed them to set in their waste water and have been checking PH with a cheap dollar store meter.your yields are low and growth is slow and you want to know why. does this sum it up???

[PhatJay]

tell me if i got this right----2 to 3 weeks after your beans sprout you transplanted into compost/perlite and moved them into a cold drafty loft and started flowering.you've allowed them to set in their waste water and have been checking PH with a cheap dollar store meter.your yields are low and growth is slow and you want to know why. does this sum it up???

CONGRATULATIONS! You have won asshole of the week.

(your medal will be mailed to you shortly, so you can show it off at parties)

[bullyslayer]

CONGRATULATIONS! You have won asshole of the week.

(your medal will be mailed to you shortly, so you can show it off at parties)

i thought only the OP could give out awards ? what about my post has offended you PHATJAY??? before WE can help CHARBUD it is necessary to understand his situation.

[PhatJay]

i thought only the OP could give out awards ? what about my post has offended you PHATJAY??? before WE can help CHARBUD it is necessary to understand his situation.

It came across as a bit snarky, If I have misunderstood the tone of your post I apologise and will rescind your award. But please bear in mind before you refuse it, that it is a solid steel medal and comes with a multicolored ribbon so you can hang it around your neck.

[bullyslayer]

It came across as a bit snarky, If I have misunderstood the tone of your post I apologise and will rescind your award. But please bear in mind before you refuse it, that it is a solid steel medal and comes with a multicolored ribbon so you can hang it around your neck.

ok well i googled snarky and it does seem to define my post so no need to apologise nor recind award . no medal though it sounds very nice but i'm not into bling or bragging.i will try to be more respectful in future posts. i sorry.my advice to charbud----do not let your plants set in the runoff water and find a better way to check the ph of the liquids going into and coming out of your pots.even swimming pool test strips would be better than what you have now.having the proper PH is the MOST IMPORTANT adjustment you can make to the liquid going into your pots so get the best test[er] your budget affords you.