Quote Originally Posted by oldmac
Hey there Budlover13,

I see that you are in Cali, so it presents a logistical problem. I have recently started a "mentor" program, where I'll design and produce a grow system based on aero or aero/fog grow trays and some form of lighting set-up. I then teach the recpient how to grow using what I built and/or designed (the recpient pays for the parts used etc). This also includes cuttings or more usually plant starts so they have plant material for mom's etc.

Unless you are in a county that uses sqft/canopy to gauge size of the permitted grow and not plant count my method of SOG, put's it in the illegal catergory in a legal state.

I'm in a not mmj state in the NE, had some snow this AM, but nothing like the midwest had been hit with. I am close enought to travel to NJ and RI that have gone/going mmj. It's just too bad they seem to want to use plant counts.

My philosophy of growing indoors has been; indoors using any form of artifical lighting, the most productive way to grow is SOG. If you've seen my album showing the construction of "fogfognugen" or the thread I indroduced the first experiment run of it, each tray is 136 plants or 276 per/foggy. In the partnered grow I am envolved in there are now 2 fogfognugen's going in the same room, 1 using TI LED lights and the other PSMHs. From a legal perspective, I maintain that as long as each tray has cuts from one clone mother source then that tray is really just 1 plant with 138 branches. Biologically there is no way to prove different, tho my lawyer says that probably would not hold up in court. But I've been so illegal for so long I don't know if I care.

BTW, Willie has been a great advocate for mmj, just hope the last bust in Texas goes well for him.
OM
yes sir, Central Cali. There are plusses and minuses just as anywhere else. I tend to chuckle when I hear people from other locales speak of wishing they were in Cali like it was the land of milk and honey. Plusses are individual preferences and freedoms, imo. I love that I live in a dessert, within 30 minutes can be in the Sierras, and within 2 1/2 hours be on the Pacific Ocean. Just today, I travelled to Fresno(county seat) to exchange ideas with a friend and drop off a couple clones for him. On the way to his place, a Fresno County Sheriff's Deputy pulled alongside me at the stoplight, looked over, saw my two clones in the center console cupholder, smiled and went on his way. Unfortunately there's a LOT of drama in the county regarding MMJ.

So, according to my county laws I am allowed to have up to 5 patients under me(whose plant count I will grow and supply them with good meds). Cali Supreme Court says we are each allowed 99 plants. I plan to stay well within the limits.

I plan to run a rotating grow, I think similar to a SOG set-up, in which I will have four rooms/tents, homemade of course. I will dedicate a closet to my mothers and seedlings, 1 tent for veg, 1 tent for experimenting, and the remainder of the room dedicated to flowering. I believe that with this set-up I can harvest once a month +/-. With the amount of meds produced, we should be able to not only all be well stocked and make edibles, but also do business with a local dispensary who is, I believe, on the right side of the fight. Program for terminally ill and low-income patients to receive 1g a day/7 a wk for free. For those that aren't dirt poor, there is a sliding scale, and for those that have not time or experience to grow and are legal MMJ patients in good careers, well they end up paying the bills.

I want to have a similar set-up to theirs to be able to cover cost, but I want to drop the price of indoor medicine for our local area to $50/oz or less. The only way to achieve this is to use my set-up as an educational resource and as you do, teach a man to fish. THIS is my goal.

I will HAVE to switch from soil to hydro/aero for the simple reason of having to deal with all that dirt. If I and 5 members each dedicate 90 of our allowed 99(not saying it'll be that big) that is a total of 180 plants per harves, every month. 30 from each card in each stage of growth. Too much dirt. Obviously, I'll have to work my way up to the end goal and that will take time, but in the end, I'm sure it will be worth it to help so many people become self-sufficient.
budlover13 Reviewed by budlover13 on . would like opinions on seedling light schedule just started my first indoor grow- been doing it outside since 1972- got a lot to learn for-sure I have started my seeds , sprouting today- I have them under a 1k MH , I am able to maintain a 72 degree temp 24 inches from tops- should I be running a 20 on 4 off for now- or should I be doing a 16 on 8 off then switch to 20-4 after roots are established- googled this ? and got a bunch of different opinions on using MH at this stage, it is what I have for now HELP !:thumbsup: Rating: 5