Plant restrictions

[MadSativa]

high , guys a big problem that i see, is the state regulating plant size, amount yielding, and amount a patient can have on them. these rules are bogus, and everyone in the program needs to voice this, when asked how much do you need to medicate, say 1 ounce a day. even if you don't medicate every day.
Because the way that it is is dumb what about those that do need a oz. a day such as in concentrates for cancer or pain, or what happens when you build a tolerance and you are smoking or vaping 1 ounce or more a day?
It might seem like allot to you but I assure you 6 ounces for some people is only enough for on week not even 6 days. I know people who smoke up to 3 ounces a day in Cali for pain such as back injuries. One person in particular, started smoking about 1 gram a day to alive his pain. After 2 years of therapy and healing he was smoking over 3 ounces a day, in concentrate form. after 2 years he had felt his body healed well and started to stop smoking, he went cold turkey after smoking for 2 years strait, and 3 ounces a day at the end of this stretch. He said he had 0 with-drawl, stooped cold turkey because he felt he had healed enough to not be in pain any more. his movement is restricted a bit, but this is from the injury not from stooping smoking.
Anyway, a ounce a day for everyone is a good place to start when the state asks how much you need, and for these board meetings this has to be brought up, because in the future everyone who needs more than 6 ounces is going to be suffering or going poor very quickly. the 4 plant thing has allot to do with this, I have also heard about plant hight restrictions, this is also not good. different strains produce different amounts, if you have a small sativa plant it is not uncommon to only get a 1/4 of a oz. with small plants you get small yields this has to stop, there are many who need allot more than 6 ounces. The sate thinks they know what there doing but they don't, some of the dispensaries in NM think they know what there doing and they don't, this has to stop.
I saw a producer on you tube that has allot of auto flower strains and some of the worst yields I have ever seen the buds are bing curred with foliage on them, this is so wrong, from bud rot to foliage in you medicine. Why is the state, giving producer's licenses to people who have little to no, experience growing medical grade cannabis. they think no one has the knowledge when that is not the case, there are producer's here that do know what there doing, but obviously some do not. Is it that hard to find a patient that knows how to grow and have him work at the producers grow op? Fact is the state needs education on this as well, medical cannabis is a industry not a legal battle, how are we gonna get better when the people in charge hold us back so much, so I had to bring it to everyones attention.

When asked how much do you need say 1 Ounce A day. when they say well thats un herd of you tell them, it is very common in medical patients to need this much, even here that is why there will always be shortages here, even if 40 producers are approved tomorrow.

MadSativa Reviewed by MadSativa on 11-14-2010. Plant restrictions high , guys a big problem that i see, is the state regulating plant size, amount yielding, and amount a patient can have on them. these rules are bogus, and everyone in the program needs to voice this, when asked how much do you need to medicate, say 1 ounce a day. even if you don't medicate every day. Because the way that it is is dumb what about those that do need a oz. a day such as in concentrates for cancer or pain, or what happens when you build a tolerance and you are smoking or Rating: 5

[MimbresValley]

Great post mads,
so the DOH is accepting feedback until the 2nd.
I was hoping everyone would sign something like this, what do you think about the wording?, what should we ask for that would be an improvement, but not so crazy they wont consider it?

(insert name) am a patient of the New Mexico Medical Cannabis Program(id number), as the Department is currently accepting feedback, I would like to see the following changes made.


Change the plant definition so "Mature" means a female in flower, also increase the number of mature plants allowble by the patient to six(6).
Clarification on male plants.

Patients should be allowed up to twenty-four (24) ounces so that seasonal outdoor patient growers can harvest and keep enough medicine for a year, as cannabis only flowers one time in late fall when grow outside.


Patients who harvest and excess of 6 ounces indoors, or 24 ounces outdoors, shall turn over there excess cannabis to the already approve medical provides licensed by the state. If the product is free from all contaminates, the producer can give the cannabis away at no charge to indigent patients.



When the final draft is completed, print out a copy, sign it(include your medical mj id number) and mail to the DOH yourself, either through email, or good ol snail mail.

[MimbresValley]

maybe everyone should have 24 ounce limit. would make things easier.

[MadSativa]

24 is good but even more would be better, I see no reason someone shouldn't have 2-5 pounds if they want. 5 pounds a month is good, also the thing about throwing you herb away by giving it to the cops is insane. The entire state has medical droughts and their throwing herb away.

[MimbresValley]

Well currently I believe your primary care physician can recommend a larger amount for you, I def think we should be able to have more than 6 ounces though.

[lovemyhens]

Especially when it comes to making edibles or tinctures...having more would be beneficial fot those that cook AND smoke/vape. I would love to cook with it at some point...but it may not be possible with the little amou
nts we are allowed to procure......and what if a recipe goes horribly wrong? Then you need another ounce or so just to start over. Sigh. yes I speak from experience.

[MadSativa]

yeah making eatables is a big one especially if your putting buds into butter and not hash into butter. And either way hash or buds your gonna need allot, 6 onces can be one cake if done right, and when its right its very nice. I know allot of new patients are like a pound what am I gonna do with a pound? but really what cant you do with a pound, and for those that need a pound their S.O.L. Allot of people still think pure extracts are to potent but really it is the dirty plant matter that is your cutting agent. Why not cut out the cutting agent and go pure and use less? is their something wrong with taking one hit or with eating one candy and bam insta-medication? 6 ounces is not much at all, plant hight restrictions? what if I'm growing summer trees? sunlight can grow for a whole year and cost pennies, vs growing 3 or 4 times a year and costing hundreds.

[MadSativa]

Great post mads,
so the DOH is accepting feedback until the 2nd.
I was hoping everyone would sign something like this, what do you think about the wording?, what should we ask for that would be an improvement, but not so crazy they wont consider it?

(insert name) am a patient of the New Mexico Medical Cannabis Program(id number), as the Department is currently accepting feedback, I would like to see the following changes made.


Change the plant definition so "Mature" means a female in flower, also increase the number of mature plants allowble by the patient to six(6).
Clarification on male plants.

Patients should be allowed up to twenty-four (24) ounces so that seasonal outdoor patient growers can harvest and keep enough medicine for a year, as cannabis only flowers one time in late fall when grow outside.


Patients who harvest and excess of 6 ounces indoors, or 24 ounces outdoors, shall turn over there excess cannabis to the already approve medical provides licensed by the state. If the product is free from all contaminates, the producer can give the cannabis away at no charge to indigent patients.



When the final draft is completed, print out a copy, sign it(include your medical mj id number) and mail to the DOH yourself, either through email, or good ol snail mail.

why 6 plants it is federal law over 99 plants is the big no mo. so why not 99 plants total? this is the way allot of rules are based Else where. maybe 99 is allot but why not 40 or 50 or even 25 in flower? this would make it easer for people to grow their smaller plants and still get bigger yields. 4 or 6 small plants even the smallest of lights is to big for this, well maybe not so much but you see what I mean. it is easier to get 1-2 grams per watt with a 600 or a 1000 than a 250 or a 150. especially if your having to deal with plant hight restrictions, which erxs me cause the state is not showing people how to grow for free you have to pay $100 bucks for a class, thats BS it should be free for all same as it is on you tube. people need the option to buy clones and seeds, and have a forum to get info for free.

[MadSativa]

exacticaly what I was talkin about look at this guy, and its not enough.

YouTube - 40 Grams Of Marijuana A DAY

[olliegrow]

I agree, the more the bettter, my buddy has a card and is growing huge bushes indoor just to get enough medicine for a few months and has to keep a tight continous harvest because of the limitations on plants.