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    #1
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    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Hi, this week I will be starting a comparison grow between HPS and Induction lighting.

    Question: Can induction lighting produce the same flowering performance as HPS lighting, while using 50% or less watts?

    The goal is NOT any of:
    - examine veg growth
    - produce maximum yield
    - try any other kind of experimentation

    Methodology:

    Manufacture 2 identical growing cabinets. The only difference is the lamps installed in each cabinet.

    Put in each box an equal number of veg'd clones that are ready for flowering. Feed & water the plants the same during flowering.

    At the end of flowering, compare the quality & yield of each cabinet.

    The lights:

    Cab 1) HPS with magnetic ballast.
    - Rated power: 250w
    - Actual power used: 315w

    Cab 2) Chinese induction lamp
    - Rated power: 120w
    - Actual power used: 118w

    Cab 2) 2 x Sunblaster 2' CFL
    - Rated power: 24w
    - Actual power used: 20w

    *note: The CFLs may be added because my actual power use estimates were off (I expected the induction to consumer more than rated) and I wanted to get closer to 50%. Feedback on this decision is appreciated.
    vanduction Reviewed by vanduction on . HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison Hi, this week I will be starting a comparison grow between HPS and Induction lighting. Question: Can induction lighting produce the same flowering performance as HPS lighting, while using 50% or less watts? The goal is NOT any of: - examine veg growth - produce maximum yield - try any other kind of experimentation Methodology: Rating: 5

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    #2
    Junior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    The Cabinets:




    Construction:

    Each cabinet is 2' x 2' wide, and 4' tall. Made from plywood. Painted white. (white poly may be installed later when i get some).

    Watering:

    The bottom of the cab is covered in rubber pond liner. There is a drain with the valve on the bottom. This will allow all plants to be watered at once by flooding the bottom of the cab and then draining it.

    In future a pump/drip system may be added, but for now dumping water into the 2 boxes will suffice.

    Power:

    Lights, heating, and cooling all have their own plugs.



    The lights for both cabinets will run off the same timer. All other items will run off continuous power.

    Temperature:

    Each cabinet has a high thermostat and a low thermostat. The high thermostat activates a 106cfm fan that blows out a 5" duct. Air intake is through a dryer exhaust flap.

    The low thermostat activates an electric blanket under the pond liner. Now that it's winter I expect this will be necessary when the lamps are off.



    Smell:

    There is nothing to control smell at this time, but I can add either an ozonator or a charcoal filter to the 5" ducts.

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    #3
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Subscribed. Please see this through! And thanks for taking the time. We need more of these kinds of comparisons.

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    #4
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Vanduction, where did you get the idea that induction will out-perform HPS?

    To my knowledge the main benefits of induction are the lumen maintenance and the long life, unless the bulbs are specifically designed for horticulture - and even then...

    I would imagine induction to be equal to or slightly better than standard t5 fluoros for flowering.

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    #5
    Junior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Quote Originally Posted by RackitMan
    Vanduction, where did you get the idea that induction will out-perform HPS?
    From you, other users, and vendor's websites.

    ...

    Forum post: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...row-light.html

    RackitMan (you) said: "The light ouput is about 85% usable by the plant as compared to about 15-20% (?) for HPS."

    Forum Post: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ml#post2147172

    Calbunn said: "I'm very happy with the yields and the 400 have replaced my 1000 w hps"

    Vendor Website: EFDL Lighting, induction lamps, LED grow lights

    "These lamps use 70% less energy than HPS"

    Vendor Website: Induction Grow Lights - NewAge Lights

    "This 150w Super Grow Light can replace [...] 600W to 800W HPS (HID).

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    #6
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    oh, my...take a ticket...take a seat.....:glugglug:..I wanna see this.

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    #7
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Yep,... Watching.

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    #8
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    ive been wanting to see something like this for a while

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    #9
    Senior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    Well, at least you managed to get the relative lumen output matched.

    Still putting my money behind the HPS due to higher usable photon flux density.

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    #10
    Junior Member

    HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison

    The cabinets are now installed in the corner. I had to move the exhaust ducts to the side because depth is an issue.



    Each cabinet has a ball valve installed. The plants will be allowed to soak and then the water will be drained.



    There are thermometers with remote probes. Each thermometer has a MIN/MAX function so i can confirm that the thermostats inside are working properly.

    I have confirmed that the max temperature in both boxes is about 78 degrees. The cooling works perfectly.

    I plan on setting the low thermostat to 18c, which is about 64 degrees. The temperature in our area has gone below freezing but I hope the combination of plants in cabinets + the heating pads will be able to keep the temperature up. If the thermometers report the MIN temperatures are too low, then i will add insulation and/or a small heater.


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