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11-13-2010, 11:53 PM #1OPJunior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Hi, this week I will be starting a comparison grow between HPS and Induction lighting.
Question: Can induction lighting produce the same flowering performance as HPS lighting, while using 50% or less watts?
The goal is NOT any of:
- examine veg growth
- produce maximum yield
- try any other kind of experimentation
Methodology:
Manufacture 2 identical growing cabinets. The only difference is the lamps installed in each cabinet.
Put in each box an equal number of veg'd clones that are ready for flowering. Feed & water the plants the same during flowering.
At the end of flowering, compare the quality & yield of each cabinet.
The lights:
Cab 1) HPS with magnetic ballast.
- Rated power: 250w
- Actual power used: 315w
Cab 2) Chinese induction lamp
- Rated power: 120w
- Actual power used: 118w
Cab 2) 2 x Sunblaster 2' CFL
- Rated power: 24w
- Actual power used: 20w
*note: The CFLs may be added because my actual power use estimates were off (I expected the induction to consumer more than rated) and I wanted to get closer to 50%. Feedback on this decision is appreciated.vanduction Reviewed by vanduction on . HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison Hi, this week I will be starting a comparison grow between HPS and Induction lighting. Question: Can induction lighting produce the same flowering performance as HPS lighting, while using 50% or less watts? The goal is NOT any of: - examine veg growth - produce maximum yield - try any other kind of experimentation Methodology: Rating: 5
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11-14-2010, 12:25 AM #2OPJunior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
The Cabinets:
Construction:
Each cabinet is 2' x 2' wide, and 4' tall. Made from plywood. Painted white. (white poly may be installed later when i get some).
Watering:
The bottom of the cab is covered in rubber pond liner. There is a drain with the valve on the bottom. This will allow all plants to be watered at once by flooding the bottom of the cab and then draining it.
In future a pump/drip system may be added, but for now dumping water into the 2 boxes will suffice.
Power:
Lights, heating, and cooling all have their own plugs.
The lights for both cabinets will run off the same timer. All other items will run off continuous power.
Temperature:
Each cabinet has a high thermostat and a low thermostat. The high thermostat activates a 106cfm fan that blows out a 5" duct. Air intake is through a dryer exhaust flap.
The low thermostat activates an electric blanket under the pond liner. Now that it's winter I expect this will be necessary when the lamps are off.
Smell:
There is nothing to control smell at this time, but I can add either an ozonator or a charcoal filter to the 5" ducts.
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11-14-2010, 12:44 AM #3Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Subscribed. Please see this through! And thanks for taking the time. We need more of these kinds of comparisons.
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11-14-2010, 01:52 AM #4Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Vanduction, where did you get the idea that induction will out-perform HPS?
To my knowledge the main benefits of induction are the lumen maintenance and the long life, unless the bulbs are specifically designed for horticulture - and even then...
I would imagine induction to be equal to or slightly better than standard t5 fluoros for flowering.
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11-14-2010, 03:07 AM #5OPJunior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Originally Posted by RackitMan
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Forum post: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...row-light.html
RackitMan (you) said: "The light ouput is about 85% usable by the plant as compared to about 15-20% (?) for HPS."
Forum Post: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-li...ml#post2147172
Calbunn said: "I'm very happy with the yields and the 400 have replaced my 1000 w hps"
Vendor Website: EFDL Lighting, induction lamps, LED grow lights
"These lamps use 70% less energy than HPS"
Vendor Website: Induction Grow Lights - NewAge Lights
"This 150w Super Grow Light can replace [...] 600W to 800W HPS (HID).
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11-14-2010, 04:27 AM #6Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
oh, my...take a ticket...take a seat.....:glugglug:..I wanna see this.
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11-14-2010, 07:19 AM #7Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Yep,... Watching.
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11-14-2010, 07:25 AM #8Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
ive been wanting to see something like this for a while
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11-14-2010, 10:25 AM #9Senior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
Well, at least you managed to get the relative lumen output matched.
Still putting my money behind the HPS due to higher usable photon flux density.
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11-22-2010, 10:59 PM #10OPJunior Member
HPS vs. Induction + CFL flowering comparison
The cabinets are now installed in the corner. I had to move the exhaust ducts to the side because depth is an issue.
Each cabinet has a ball valve installed. The plants will be allowed to soak and then the water will be drained.
There are thermometers with remote probes. Each thermometer has a MIN/MAX function so i can confirm that the thermostats inside are working properly.
I have confirmed that the max temperature in both boxes is about 78 degrees. The cooling works perfectly.
I plan on setting the low thermostat to 18c, which is about 64 degrees. The temperature in our area has gone below freezing but I hope the combination of plants in cabinets + the heating pads will be able to keep the temperature up. If the thermometers report the MIN temperatures are too low, then i will add insulation and/or a small heater.
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