Legal MJ in Colorado!

[HighPopalorum]

No threats, HH, but you're wrong! A Colorado version of P19 will make it legal for us all to grow and use marijuana. I won't boycott your shop because I live in SWCO and don't get up to Denver often. Still, you should think about the people MJ prohibition hurts, and not only those who might profit from legalization. I don't think you're mean, or intentionally trying to be injust, but it's wrong. We might disagree on the details of legalization, but that's all political B.S. Any liberalization of marijuana (or any other damned drug) is a good thing. I realize that your intentions are as good as mine, but you're only hurting marijuana users when you vote for their continued arrest. From the perspective of someone who does not sell marijuana, it seems hypocritical.

[TurboALLWD]

Harvest House, I have a lot of respect for you and you're stance on the bullshit legislation. There are very few places producing affordable meds that are also quality. I went to the farm in Boulder a while ago to check out their $250 oz deals and it reaked of schwag. With less than half the medical value, their $250 deal is more like $500 and you have to smoke a joint to catch a buzz. I'll definitely swing by and give you my support. I tried checking you out a few weeks ago but you open so late! hahah. I ended up going to GM for a $90 1/4, with tiny stress seeds. Nothing like opening up a calyx and seeing a pin head seed. Seeya soon brother. :jointsmile:

[Dorje113]

HH, I think your intentions are good but I think you need to realize there will have to be a compromise... for example alcohol is legal and regulated, you cannot distill or produce beer/wine for sale in your own home. But nobody cares about these limitations, homebrewers do it because they like beer, not because they are trying to make money. Eventually mj will be like that too... legalization will put an end to the profiteering and, IMO, greatly reduce the amount of dangerous "medical" mj currently being produced. But this can't happen without big business getting in on the act. There is going to be the budweiser of buds but that doesn't mean our culture or ability to produce and sell high quality weed will be destroyed as well. It does mean that prices will drop but that's ok. I really think the basis for decisions like this need to be what will reduce suffering the most.

[ds0110]

Not everyone is trying to accomplish the same thing obviously. What is the goal? To make money, be able to grow your own legally, end mj prohibition, or end the drug war altogether?? These are all distinctly different levels of dissent against the current policies. Its interesting that finally the current attitude/laws are changing and yet we cant figure out what we want, or just cant make it happen.

I personally see the money as a side effect byproduct of this fight, the legal/prison system is trying to make money off me and I am making money because of them, and while its naive to say it has no bearing on motivation, it is by far not the point of the battle. The real power lies in political and social change towards true freedom. A big effect of this freedom is that the black market - and therefore profits, must diminish. A small price to pay considering the amount of money and time people have spent incarcerated (POWs) because of this war against american citizens. Hasnt the point been this whole time to legalize the plant entirely? Where did the movement get lost?

[Dorje113]

Another thing... right now instead of Marleys or Marlboro Greens produced by Phillip Morris we have huge gangs of organized crime growing weed all over the world.

The Vietnamese have set up warehouses all over the world:

Pictured: Britain's biggest cannabis farm... with £2m worth of weed | Mail Online

Mexican Mafia sets up huge od grows that are dangerous to anyone passing by and likely do a lot of environmental damage. Right here in the front range we had 1000's of plants taken out of the national forest just west of Lyons.

Lately, I have heard reports from Europe of bad weed being sprayed with glass or metal shavings to give it bag appeal.

If I had a choice between a mass produced but "natural" mj cig and the stuff organized crime puts out I think I'll go with the Marley.

So there's another reason to legalize, and I'd argue that having cig companies produce Marleys is better than what we have now.


A summary of reasons we need to legalize despite the FACT that when it is, there will be regulations on it just like there are on alcohol:

1. End the Drug War
2. Allow the farming of industrial hemp
3. Put organized crime and other profiteers out of the cannabis business
4. Control the rampant distribution of unsafe marijuana

IMO, these are the real goals and other stuff like mj culture and mj lifestyle and having an artificially inflated income are far down the list of what I care about.

[Dorje113]

And more...

BBC News - Men jailed over �£14m cannabis factory

[ThaiBuddhaMan]

Lately, I have heard reports from Europe of bad weed being sprayed with glass... to give it bag appeal.

This did happen but it was a while ago and from my peeps in the UK it was pretty much a one time thing. One doesn't get too many repeat customers that way. I believe the rumor is that the crew that did that pretty much got their door kicked in & the crap beat out of them by former customers & also some other dealers before they were reported to the Bobbys. Serves them right. Karma's a bitch sometimes!