I wanted to say that I have used them a few times for veg and they grow extremely nice under 4 of these 45w cfl's

I have so many experiments going that I use them as mobile utility/fill lights.

Here is an idea I had awhile back and I was thinking of blackjack when I saw this...utility light string...it is one of those multi receptacle light-strings for parties and construction sites...they are not that expensive, and you could string them all over a room.

I will find out which distributor has them, but I think it might be Zandor's favorite...Harbor freight...Great supplier for the small closet grower.

And finally, I agree with BB! These lights are great for newb grower's because they will not burn up your plants or your pocket book.